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  1. Keegs

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    I thought about this when i woke up and the first person that popped in my head was Nate Burleson. Maybe i was thinking most overpayed but he is defintely overrated.

    Who is more overrated than Nate Burleson?
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    Ty Law (10 characters)
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    i would say someone like john lynch, but guys like that should fall into a category of guys that used to be good but now they are just a big name and number running around.
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    Brett Favre?
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    Through most of last year he was, but those 29 INTs and his ridiculous posturinghas tarnished his image a bit. Sonoone really thinks he is still the Brett Favr3e of old.

    I'd have to go with Ty Law. Everyone thinks he is the 2001 Ty Law,including Ty and the Postons. How much more over-rated can he be if he is demanding 7 mil a year and 10 mil to sign?
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    He's at or near the head of the list but it's really a coin flip -

    TO (leading the 'Boys to the Bowl),

    Chad Johnson (who can stop 85? try any Bengals backup QB),

    Reggie Bush (#tbd yet to take a snap facing an NFL D) also come to mind.

    And no top 5 list would be complete without a Manning (Peyton or Eli). :D
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    #75 Jersey

    Drew Brees ten characters.
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    No votes for Michael Vick? Astonishing.
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    michael vick. not even close
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    I don't know... Ray Lewis is pretty close.
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    Michael Vick by far. He'd make a better RB then a QB, the guy can't throw to save his life.
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    Ben Roethlisberger or Michael Vick.
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    Ben gets a nod as well.
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    I want to make a poll of most overrated players but it is so easy to leave someone out.....

    so far i have..

    John Lynch
    Nate Burleson
    T.O
    Chad Johnson
    Antwaan Randle El
    Brett Favre
    Michael Vick
    Reggie Wayne
    Lavar Arrington
    Cato June
    Dwight Freeney
    Ray Lewis
    Joey Porter
    Jeremy Shockey
    Donovan Mcnabb
    Javon Walker
    Darrel Jackson

    I highly doubt you can find someone on here who hates peyton manning more than I do, but i just dont think we can say he is overrated. He is a good QB, granted he is a stat whore and a choke but until people say he is the greatest of all time, i wont say he is overrated.

    And we haven't seen Bush play yet so i can't say he is overrated yet either.
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    Donovan McNabb
    Warren Sapp (ok maybe he should have made this list a few years ago. Today he's probably not even rated)
    Eli Manning
    Randy Moss
    The entire Redskin roster (oops, I'm confusing overrated with over paid)
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    Everybody pretty much knows those.

    Javon Walker - an amazing number of career games with zero, 1, or 2 catches, and a huge number of catches and yards in garbage time.
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    You really can't even mention the word "overrated" without mentioning Michael Vick...

    Has there ever been a quarterback who got this kind of money ($62m), for putting up these kinds of numbers?

    Vick:
    2001-2005:
    Completion %: 54.1
    Yards: 9031 (Average - 1806 per season)
    TD: 51 (Average - 10.2 per season)
    QB Rating: 75.8

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    By comparison, here are Brady's numbers for the same five season span (and I fully realize that comparing Brady to Vick is like comparing a five-star ocean-side resort hotel & spa to a back-alley hooker & crack motel, both in numbers and in character, but...):

    Brady:
    2001-2005:
    Completion %: 61.9
    Yards: 18035 (Average - 3607 per season)
    TD: 123 (Average - 24.6 per season)
    QB Rating: 88.5

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    Add into the fact that by all accounts, Vick is rapper-chain-swinging, jacked-up-Caprice-with-spinners-driving, leather-hat-turned-around-sideways-wearing, punkass ghetto thug, and it is completely amazing to me that he could get this kind of dough and recognition...

    The fact that kids wear his jersey all over the place just reflects the sad social "creeping hip-hop-nosis" that is permeating our once great nation (but that's a whole other argument...)

    Falcon fans should put his face on the side of a milk carton with the caption "Have you seen our quarterback during crunchtime?"...

    (For more on the "Newport News, VA 7th Avenue Vick Bling-Bling Playahz", see: Vick, Marcus...)

    I actually heard one scout say during the draft as he was speaking about interviewing Vince Young (and I am prarphrasing from memory):

    "We thought we were going to get a kid all full of himself, like a Michael Vick type, but we were pleasantly surprised at how humble he was..."

    A "Michael Vick type"...doesn't that just say it all...


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    ADPF

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    Sources:
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2001/0508/1193460.html
    http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235253

    (BTW, is it obvious I just don't like Michael Vick? Probably an old VaTech / UM thing!)
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    One thing i will say is that i was very surprised when Vick led the Falcons to defeat green bay at home in the playoffs a couple years ago to end Green Bay's streak.. That surprised the **** outta me. If i owned a house i would have lost it in that game. I don't remember what vick's stats were tho.
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    There are a lot of overrated QBs led by the most overrated of all - Favre. Then I'd say Culpepper and McNabb are overrated. Vick is probably overhyped, but I don't think he's rated as a top 5, or even top 10 QB, so I wouldn't call him overrated.

    The most overrated non-QB, IMO, is Randy Moss. Followed by Kris Jenkins, Urlacher, Ray Lewis, and Dallas' Roy Williams.
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    Absolutely, the guy can't take on a block. He's got to win this because he is compared to the greats of the game while he is all self-promotion. If you ever have a chance to hear Carl Banks rip him on sirius, it's enlightening.
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    Ray Lewis definitely gets my vote also.
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    Ot

    Not to derail the thread... but what does "ten characters" mean?
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    hmmmmmmm

    michael vick
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    You need to use ten charactors to add to a thread. Ty Law, for example, only adds 5.
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    How many people have actually seen these players?

    TO is not over rated. I'm sorry.. Chad Johnson? Are you crazy?? The guy is a top 3 receiver in the league!
    And someone said Eli Manning.. he was in his 2nd year and brought a very average team to the playoffs..

    Yes Ray Lewis isn't what he is and I think his comments cloud peoples judgement but he is a great LB.

    ROY WILLIAMS??? THE GUY IS AWESOME!!! Are people looking back at the highlights on espn when Santana Moss beat him twice to win the game??? Roy williams is still young and is pretty good playing the pass defense.. But damn strong tackling and playing the run..

    Now I haven't watched every player on the list, but I have with a lot of them and feel I should voice my opinion..


    Lastly, I love Brady and his game but to say Ben Roethlisberger is not over rated.. I think you need to go back and look how the steelers beat Indy.. Ben had a solid day.. They changed their offense in the post season goign from a run first to a pass first.> Ben and Tom are going to go neck and neck for years..
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    Roy Williams wasn't responsible for covering Moss on either of those plays.
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    I agree. Some of these players really aren't overrated.

    Chad Johnson?
    Brian Urlacher?
    Reggie Wayne?

    Terrell Owens is a douche, but no one can deny his talent.

    Roy Williams IS overrated, and really shouldn't be playing FS.

    I wouldn't say Ray Lewis is overrated, since everyone knows he's old now and starting to slow down in a big way. Lest we forget that, at one time, he was one of (if not the) best LBs to play the game.

    My overrated list:

    DeAngelo Hall
    Ben Roethisburger (I think he's a great QB, but not QUITE as good as his hype would suggest)
    Mike Vick
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    As I recall he was supposed to play deeper but moss split them both times..

    My feeling is people base their decisions on ESPN highlights..

    I'll get off my soap box :p
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    D HALL??? I've seen him play up close and on tv.. THE GUY Is a stud..
    I will agree to disagree with you, Williams isn't over rated..
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    BTW cool name and LOVE THE SHOW.. Enjoyed how season 5 ended :)

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