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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    Guiteriez is on his way back.. This would make the most sense next to Vinny coming in.. I dont know why Mort and Espn have the facination with Dante Culpepper.. he is not in the leauge for a reason, he is a bum.. :mad:


    Gootz would be there unless something happend to Casell.. In 2008 Matt Casell has the keys and he is going to drive the car until something happens..
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    By the way I heard this on D and C on EEI , i cant confirm this..
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    Culpepper had an MVP-caliber season before the knee injury, and he's had time to heal. When the Steelers brought him in, they couldn't believe he wasn't starting for a team in the league, per PFT. It might be worth a look considering Cassel hasn't proven himself worth starting since high school...Just my 2 cents
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    Guiterez makes more sense. Culpepper not so much. Matt G. knows our system. Culpepper does not. I don't understand this fascination with Dante Culpepper. :confused:
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    Then why didn't the Steelers sign him? :confused:
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    Culpepper would be a solid addition. He'd be ready the week after the bye.
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    Not sure he's what the team wishes for...time will tell.. No links to any stories??
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    He would be a Patriot if Randy Moss wants him here. I think the Moss factor would influence BB to give him a trial workout. Just my opinion.
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    We would have to simplify and change the offense - but I wouldn't rule it out depending how Cassel plays this week in his first ever start - on the road, we'll see how it goes. If he can't handle it, our other choices are Gutierrez and a rookie. I hope, and have hope, that Cassel will be alright but if he's not we'll have to suck it up, get a veteran and work the playbook around him. We don't need a great QB to have a solid offense.

    Hopefully, though, this time next week we'll be discussing how we can try to Franchise and Trade Cassel in the offseason ;)
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    Matt is our QB, O'C is our rookie, and Gutz will be Matt's backup. At least for now.

    I'm calling PETA-I hate to see dead horses whipped so mercilessly:p
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    Culpepper just isnt smart enough to pick up this O in such a short amount of time would be my guess. But we all know what ESPN is about. They love a big story, and reuniting Culpepper and Moss, the 2 guys most responsible for a 41-0 LOSS to the Giants in the NFCC game several years ago, would be just a beautiful story. Hopefully, our front office wont bite. We're not going anywhere with Daunte Culpepper leading our squad.

    Gotta rally around the kid, bring Gutz back in and get him prepped just in case, and roll with it. We're playing with house money for the rest of the year. Win or high draft pick. Win or high draft pick. Win or high draft pick. Its a 50/50 proposition. But we all wanna win.
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    I just wonder what happens if Cassel goes 7-25 with 3 INT. What then ? Gutierrez who we cut and no-one picked up ? The rookie ?

    Sunday will be VERY interesting.

    I will say, though, this will be the first time ever that Cassel will get first team reps in practice in the regular season which could really help him.
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    What Moss needs to do for now is step up and connect with Cassel, which he did on Sunday.
    Moss is a captain and what they need him to do is conduct himself like one by setting the example and rallying his offense around Matt Cassel.

    JMO but the absolute WORST thing that could happen is for Moss to start complaining, and I see no signs of that happening at all at this time.

    For him to do anything less than support his QB would cast him in a rather disappointing light. He's essentially the leader of the offense, and he's probably the one who needs to step up the most. If he falls short of that, and I don't believe he will, then he's letting the team down.

    Getting Cassel established in this role is the #1 priority I'd imagine.
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    Time will tell on Cassel. Good point about the practices-he'll be getting the real deal now and that's only good.

    For whatever reason, BB's apparently sticking with the homeboys, so far anyway. If Matt C sukcs, we're in deep sh*t:cool: Then again, according to BB there was a laundry list of calls from QB's offering their services. JMO but no matter who we have as backup (Gutz,veteran from the outside), if Cassel doesn't work out or stinks, we're in Trouble.
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    I don't understand all the talk about the Patriots needing to go elsewhere to find a QB? :rolleyes: I know Cassel hasn't had many snaps but who else around the league knows BB's system better than Cassel? He had alot of snaps thru training camp and pre-season, personally I think they should stick with Matt. The only way he's going to get better is more snaps. He certainly knows the playbook through and through and he has alot of talent around him so why not leave him in place? There isn't another Brett Favre in the league who can come into a new system and start winning right off the bat and what I read earlier, says the Pats only have $3.2M left on the cap anyways.


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    Ready to do what mg? He can't read defenses, never could and that had nothing to do with his knees. What's he gonna do, stand there like a deer in the headlights behind an OL that can't pass block consistently and launch bombs to Moss all day like Brady couldn't last February? He can't hit Welker or Faulk on those quick slants - all he'd be here is a distraction. Not to mention he's a turnover machine and that is one thing we can't afford under these circmstances.

    This is a guy with so little grey matter and so much ego he handled his own rehab in a freakin' parking lot gym and mismanaged his own career off three rosters desperate for a remotely functional QB who now insists he must be being blackballed 'cause it just couldn't be that 32 GM's think he sucks in a QB starved league. He'd be nothing but a distraction here.
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    Same thing that happened when Brady intermittently SUCKED in 2001 - you go back to practice and correct the mistakes and get ready for the next opponent...

    We were 0-2 when Brady took over and 5-5 coming off a loss to the Rams when he was named the starter for the remainder of the season even with a healthy Beldsoe on the roster and cleared to play...
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    Ready for what? To wash the team laundry? I don't want Culpepper anywhere near the team.:eek:
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    I'm with you. First, can Daunte spell Patriots. If so then we can go to question two. Where is Massachusetts and work from there.
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    I don't think BB is going to put Cassel in a position to be 7-25 with three picks. Not this weekend anyway.

    But I agree with you on the first team reps. You probably can't exaggerate how important that will be. The guy did fine on Sunday in difficult circumstances (despite the powder puff opposition) and he should grow stronger as the season evolves.
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    very well said sir
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    It's not so much that Culpepper is a bum or can't play well ... his knee is worse than you think. That's why he retired. You really think he couldn't have campaigned himself and found a starting job somewhere?

    If he was in good enough shape to start for an NFL team, he would have.
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    The only thing you can say that BB is wrong in, the playbook will change, and the focus will be on the run first.. Other than that BB is right , Matt is the next guy and he is the starter now like or not...


    Espn needs to settle down on the dante culpepper talk, BB sees this as a challenge and motivation now he has all that now..


    Casell will get a month to prove himself, if things have not improved by San Diego , we worry about that then.. But Casell needs about a month of reg season games to be evaluated by us fans
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    Right now the Pats have a rookie as Casell's backup. It should surprise no one that the Pats are considering adding a vet of some sorts.

    Honestly, with the mediocre talent at QB that is out there right now I'd probably just as soon see them re-sign Gutierrez.
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    Because they already have Roethlisberger as their starter, along with Charlie Batch and that kid Dixon from Oregon. I think they signed Leftwich to replace Batch.

    I agree with mgteich - I don't see how it could hurt to have a guy like Culpepper who has run complex, pass-happy offenses learn our system while Cassel keeps the seat warm.
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    The Steelers couldn't believe Culpepper wasn't starting and then signed Byron Leftwich over him? That make sense.

    I say bring Culpepper in and ask him multiplication problems just to laugh at his answers. Sorry, Culpepper is arguably the dumbest QB in the league who has trouble reading defenses. No way could he play in the Pats' system. If they cut WRs for being too slow to pick up the offense, why would they want a QB who is just as slow and needs to know everyone's presnap reads and not just his own.
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    When has Culpepper ran a complex offense. All his offenses need to be dumb down for him because he can't read defenses. The Minnesotta offense that he run was one step from schoolyard ball. I wouldn't be surprised if Culpepper draw the routes on his chest in the huddle.

    "Randy, you run to the hot blond cheerleader and cut out while Cris you run to Coach Green and turn in."

    There is a reason why an "offensive genius" like Brian Billick couldn't put together even an average offense in Baltimore. His offense was too basic for the NFL unless you had world class receivers to throw the ball to.
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    I totally agree. Not only is Culpepper the dumbest QB in the NFL, he may be one of the dumbest players in the NFL. If the guy couldn't run around, be the size of a LBer, and have a cannon for an arm when he came into the league; he would never had even made an NFL roster. He was good because he could just toss it up to Randy or Cris and teams couldn't double team him because they had to be concerned about him running with the ball. Teams won't be so much concerned about him running with the ball anymore.
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