More signs Asante' Samuel isn't going to play the "Deion" contract ploy...

Discussion in ' - Patriots Fan Forum' started by NE39, Mar 13, 2007.

  1. NE39

    NE39 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    At least he is saying the right things.

    From Adam Schefter:

  2. unoriginal

    unoriginal In the Starting Line-Up

    ... because Deion never said the right things.
  3. zippo59

    zippo59 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Whatever Asante did in his offseason training last year he should do it again. Word is it made a big difference in him reaching the next level.
  4. pats63

    pats63 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I agree with you 100%,brother...I believe he wants to stay a Patriot for the long term....
  5. VJCPatriot

    VJCPatriot Pro Bowl Player

    Big difference between Asante and Deion is that Asante's agent is still maintaining contact with the team and answering questions to the media. As I recall Deion's agent completely shut down negotiations. And that was the big stumbling block. How the heck do you negotiate a contract when one side won't talk? And that's essentially how Deion forced his way out of New England. I am more prone to believe that Asante really does want to say because of what I've heard from him and his agent so far.
  6. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

    #12 Jersey

    I forget who said it but someone late in the season was saying that the Patriots needed to improve their offer but that Samuel really, really liked being with the Patriots and would love to stay if he could. I think the "signs" we're talking about are likely due to him really wanting to stay.
  7. hwc

    hwc In the Starting Line-Up

    I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

    IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

    I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.
  8. ChoWZa

    ChoWZa Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I'm sure the team worked very hard with Samuel to avoid a bad situation here like happened with a certain Wide Receiver. Although they were 2 very different scenarios the damage of the holdouts would be just as bad. Perhaps they do have a deal done.
  9. QB12

    QB12 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    #12 Jersey

    Very perceptive, and it has a ring of truth to it.

  10. psychoPat

    psychoPat Role Player Supporter

    An ingenious theory!

    Would that it be so.
  11. njpatsfan

    njpatsfan Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Wow - stunningly insightful. It would be so elegantly Belichick-esque, if it's true.

  12. holyredeemer

    holyredeemer Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    #12 Jersey

    Okay everyone. I must admit, I am extremely devastated. When I made a very very similar comment on an earlier thread, no one ever told me that I was "Stunningly insightful" or that I had an "Ingenius theory" and no one ever told me that I had a "perceptive theory".

    In a previous thread, I stated the following:
    "I say wait on resigning asante. Put a deal in place and let his people know that after the draft, well gladly give it to him. We could use that to our advantage. A smoke screen tactic so to speak. I might be kinda overdoing it here, but to other teams, they'll have no idea what the pats are even slightly goin for. Any edge we can get, im for it."

    So with all of the evidence out on the table now, I must ask this. Is there any law for being a reply stealer on this board. Hwc should be banned for 2 months without pay, in response to the uncanny similarities of our posts.

    Okay. Im sorry. Its late, and I just thought it was absolutely awesome that someone agreed with me, without really agreeing with me. It was all a joke, and I am bored. LOL. Good post HWC. G'night ya'll. :rocker:
  13. TomBrady'sGoat

    TomBrady'sGoat 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    can people please stop comparing Asante to Deion? Deion was looking at giving up 1M by sitting. Asante would be giving up 7.8M. Also, all reports have been that NE was willing to pay Deion his market rate of 6M per season and the problem was that Deion wanted to tear up his remaining 1 year at 1M rather than working it into his new deal.

    They're not at all the same.
  14. zippo59

    zippo59 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    You mean sister. ;)
  15. Mainefan

    Mainefan Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    HolyRedeemer, you were very insightful too. Ingenious, even. We just didn't notice it, who knows why. But this theory, yours and HWC's, make all kinds of sense.
  16. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    This is the old adage, once bitten twice shy, I feel pretty much the same not sure about the timing of the announcement, but there are indicators that it is probably all worked out or very close to being all worked out so much so that the glass is way more than 1/2 full.
  17. holyredeemer

    holyredeemer Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    #12 Jersey

    Mainefan, you have no idea how much that means to me. I just wanted some love love every once in awhile too. You understand dont you?? LOL. Thx. This Board effin rocks. GO PATS!:rocker:
  18. Jimke

    Jimke In the Starting Line-Up

    One thing to note from free agency is that the Pats have not signed a

    cornerback. Could this be a good omen?
  19. mykl

    mykl On the Roster

    While the sides may be close, there is absolutely NO WAY that a deal is worked out and being sat on! How do I know this? Because Asante would have to be a COMPLETE moron, and his agent should never work in the industry again if it is true. Let's say in the next month, before the deal is signed and announced, Asante loses a leg in a freak gasoline fight...he won't see any of the money, but if he signed now, he would get his guarenteed money. There is no way that he would be willing to gamble with his economic future so that our FO could play its mind games with other teams. It takes both sides to make something like this possible, and in this case, there is absolutely no incentive for one of the sides to play along.
  20. SoCal Bong

    SoCal Bong Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Regarding working out in Florida: wasn't Samuel the one that trains with Jevon Kearse (and maybe some other big guys?). I seem to be recall some funny quotes about Samuel struggling to hold back Kearse in a running drill they do due to their large difference in size. Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?

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