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  1. DarrylS

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    I know all those who think differently are gonna poop all over the source, however I thought there was some fuzzy and creative math with the post on this, although it is not the best source it does clear up some misconceptions about the figures thrown out by Rep. King...

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/31/dc-safer-iraq/
    Rep. King’s shoddy “report†has slowly gained greater circulation, appearing in the New York Sun and on the Rush Limbaugh show.

    Here’s why the report is deceptive and false:

    1) The King report uses 2002 data for Washington, D.C., finding a violent casualty rate of 45.9 deaths per 100,000 people. That number is badly outdated. Using the most recent 2004 data, the violent casualty rate in D.C. is 35.8 deaths per 100,000. There were 198 homicides total in D.C. for the entire year.

    2) According to Pentagon’s own data released today, there have been 94 violent casualties per day in Iraq between February and May of 2006. (see p.33). That translates into 34,310 deaths per year in Iraq. For an Iraqi population of about 26.7 million, plus another 150,000 coalition forces, the violent casualty rate in Iraq is 128 deaths per 100,000.

    3) Lastly, the King report is trying to conflate the data for one urban area in the U.S. with the entire country of Iraq. As OpinionJournal writes, “The comparison with U.S. cities poses a problem of scale. Just as some municipalities here have high concentrations of crime, Baghdad and some other Iraqi cities have high concentrations of military, guerrilla and terrorist activity. A comparison of Baghdad with Los Angeles or a similarly sprawling U.S. city would be more enlightening than a comparison of Iraq as a whole with cities of well under a million people.â€
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    I think this is the best point. I'm sure there are parts of Iraq that have not seen any bloodshed, so could be made to look safe compared to some middle class American suburb. The right is cursed with dishonesty, and sooner or later it will be their downfall.
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    To compare the violence in Iraq to a U.S. city is a joke. It's a way to save face for the war mongers to let us know how we are progressing in the Iraq. Lets start with the methods of violence. How often are cars blowing up in any U.S city vs the frequency of an Iraq city. How many people in the hood are walking around outfitted with dynamite? Any politicians assassinated in the U.S. lately? How many police officers die per month in Detroit? But you say the statistics say its similar. Yes, and according to stats, Tony Eason has better playoff stats then Tom Brady.
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    I am beginning to agree with all the sore losers, get out of Iraq TODAY, then let the middle east go to hell.
    That whole area of murdering savages isn't worth one more American life or one drop of oil.
    Oil can be obtained elsewhere, tell Al Gore and his whacko followers to get out of the way then "GET THE OIL" wherever it is, dig for it in Central Park if it is there.

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH THE MUSLIM RELIGION AND THEY WILL BE AFTER US FOR THE NEXT 500 YEARS.

    Let Koffi Annan and Israel handle the middle east
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    And the left is cursed with anger and hatred, and that IS their downfall. Just look at all the anomousity directed at George Bush. He certainly ain't the most popular president, but the left is ridiculously foolhardy if they think anger and hatred are successful political platforms.

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