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  1. Patspsycho

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    I certainly hope this is the case. God bless crazy Al!
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    that's not necessarily good news. if the raiders hire anyone with an ounce of competence, it may unleash some of the talent that Russell has. With Cable we are guaranteed the top 10 pick.
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    That pick is looking as good as ever and KC looking better at the end, then adding Weis, could help too. The Raiders won't win many, if any, against SD and Denver, it would be nice if KC can at least split and leave them 1-5 in the division.
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    2011 is shaping up to be an excellent draft. Some prospects include (juniors with an *):

    QB Jake Locker, Washington
    QB Ryan Mallet, Arkansas
    RB Ingram*, Alabama
    WR Julio Jones*, Alabama
    WR AJ Green*, Georgia
    WR Michael Floyd*, Notre Dame
    WR Jonathan Baldwin*, Pittsburgh
    WR DeAndre Brown*, Southern Mississippi
    TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
    OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
    OT Clint Boling, Georgia
    DE/DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio St.
    DE/DT Allen Bailey, Miami
    DT Marvin Austin, North Carolina
    DE (?OLB) Richard Quinn*, North Carolina
    DE Da'Quan Bowers*, Clemson
    DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
    LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
    LB Travis Lewis, Oklahaoma
    CB Patrick Peterson*, LSU
    CB Janoris Jenkins*, Florida

    And that's not including some guys who are still undecided about 2010, such as DE's Derrick Morgan, Carlos Dunlap and Greg Romeus and S Earl Thomas.
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    Until Russell decides he wants to put forth a legitimate NFL effort it doesn't matter how much "talent" he has. The odds of your scenario playing out are about the same as Brady and P. Manning both deciding they've had enough and both retiring this offseason.
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    I have seen nothing out of Russell that indicates he can pick up the pro game. What will help the pick for us is a new coach having to come in and start from scratch, more of Al Davis' "awesome" draft evaluations, and Richard Seymour going elsewhere.
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    What difference does it make if it is a top 5 or a top 10 pick. BB will just trade down to the middle of the first round, for picks in the next draft. Which he will in turn use to trade into the draft following the next, and so on and so forth....(Yes I do remmember Mayo went #10)
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    All reports that I have heard peg football as one of Russell's last priorities. I think this move helps the pats, Russell will never be a top QB and bringing in a new system for next year just slows down any learning curve that team has. Everyone expects teams to not do as well the first year of a new coach.
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    Rumors are flying around that Al Davis wants to hire Mike Leach, a certain guarantee of a top 5 pick. :rolleyes:
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    Cool. Leach and Davis is a match made in heaven. They can sue each other. :D
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    And Seymour went #6... and these are the only two top 10 picks BB has ever had with the Patriots. So... what was your point again?
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    The difference is that there may be a more affordable rookie scale in place which would make it worth it to draft a guy at #5.

    BB might decide that a guy at 5 is worth it simply because he won't cost that much more than the player you can take at 10 but who isn't as good in BB's eyes.
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    Some here will call you negative, but you are exactly right. I keep getting excited about these draft picks, but BB never cashes on them, and keeps trading down in the draft, or out of the draft all together. It's been a waste of time getting excited about draft picks, so I'm going to try not to do so this time.
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    SEYMOUR! MAYO! LAVA! HOT! PROFESSOR!

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    (reference, anyone?)
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    Not if there is a rookie scale in place.
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    Maybe Al should move the Raiders to Las Vegas,That way Russell will show up at meetings next time :rolleyes:
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    How many of those previous drafts you reference had a rookie salary cap?
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    Hopefully Locker lights it up his senior year and the Raiders finish with the worst record and we can trade down still within the more affordable top ten and pick up a boat load of picks to set us up for the next several years. That would rock.
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    If my memory of the timing of CBA implementation is correct, every Patriots draft under Belchick has had a rookie salary cap. It's simply called something else and is a group cap rather than an individual one.
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    How about QB Andrew Luck - Stanford?

    The next Brady.
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    If he comes out next year. He'll be a red shirt sophomore in 2011, so he'll be draft eligible, but most often they don't come out (Sam Bradford, Ryan Mallett).

    Here's a dream fantasy for you. Get the 1st pick in 2011 from the Raiders. Trade it for a 2011 top 10 pick and a 2012 1st for some team who desperately wants Jake Locker, then grab CB Patrick Peterson. Use the extra 2012 pick to trade up for Andrew Luck if we're looking for a true successor to TB by then.
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    Any relation to the Charger's Malcom Floyd?
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    .... wow. Russell is historically bad. I still maintain that the Raiders would be a good, perhaps even playoff team if they could simply field a slightly-above-average QB (say, Jeff Garcia). If they're actually going to fire another coach and stick with Russell at QB, then that's so atrocious that I could almost get on board with the Seymour trade just for that. We're going to be picking in the top 5 in 2011 if they stick with Russell.
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    Julio Jones!
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    That's a good prediction. Even journeyman Gradkowski was winning games for them. You think Russell would want to start working on improving himself but instead he's skipped the final meeting to go to Vegas. Next year he'll be my favorite player on the Raiders.
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    More good news! The Raiders 2010 list of opponents. It is a hard schedule as I count at least 10 games were Raiders will be big underdogs. The only games I can see them as favorites are vs. St. Louis, Seattle and maybe KC.

    Raiders will face all four teams from the AFC South and NFC West, plus a team from the AFC East and AFC North.

    Raiders 2010 Regular Season Opponents
    Home / Away
    Indianapolis :D Pittsburgh
    Houston :D Tennessee
    Miami :) :confused: Jacksonville
    St. Louis :( Arizona
    Seattle :( San Francisco
    Denver :) Denver
    Kansas City :confused: Kansas City
    San Diego :) San Diego

    :singing:
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    It was huge, HUGE, that they finished 3rd. That, alone, got them Miami and Pittsburgh instead of Buffalo and Cleveland who they'd have had if they finished 4th.
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