More great news for our 2011 Raiders pick

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  1. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

  2. woolster22

    woolster22 In the Starting Line-Up

    I certainly hope this is the case. God bless crazy Al!
  3. TommyBrady12

    TommyBrady12 In the Starting Line-Up

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    that's not necessarily good news. if the raiders hire anyone with an ounce of competence, it may unleash some of the talent that Russell has. With Cable we are guaranteed the top 10 pick.
  4. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

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    That pick is looking as good as ever and KC looking better at the end, then adding Weis, could help too. The Raiders won't win many, if any, against SD and Denver, it would be nice if KC can at least split and leave them 1-5 in the division.
  5. mayoclinic

    mayoclinic Supporter Supporter

    2011 is shaping up to be an excellent draft. Some prospects include (juniors with an *):

    QB Jake Locker, Washington
    QB Ryan Mallet, Arkansas
    RB Ingram*, Alabama
    WR Julio Jones*, Alabama
    WR AJ Green*, Georgia
    WR Michael Floyd*, Notre Dame
    WR Jonathan Baldwin*, Pittsburgh
    WR DeAndre Brown*, Southern Mississippi
    TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
    OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
    OT Clint Boling, Georgia
    DE/DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio St.
    DE/DT Allen Bailey, Miami
    DT Marvin Austin, North Carolina
    DE (?OLB) Richard Quinn*, North Carolina
    DE Da'Quan Bowers*, Clemson
    DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
    LB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
    LB Travis Lewis, Oklahaoma
    CB Patrick Peterson*, LSU
    CB Janoris Jenkins*, Florida

    And that's not including some guys who are still undecided about 2010, such as DE's Derrick Morgan, Carlos Dunlap and Greg Romeus and S Earl Thomas.
  6. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi Supporter

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    Until Russell decides he wants to put forth a legitimate NFL effort it doesn't matter how much "talent" he has. The odds of your scenario playing out are about the same as Brady and P. Manning both deciding they've had enough and both retiring this offseason.
  7. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    I have seen nothing out of Russell that indicates he can pick up the pro game. What will help the pick for us is a new coach having to come in and start from scratch, more of Al Davis' "awesome" draft evaluations, and Richard Seymour going elsewhere.
  8. RxJock1120

    RxJock1120 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    What difference does it make if it is a top 5 or a top 10 pick. BB will just trade down to the middle of the first round, for picks in the next draft. Which he will in turn use to trade into the draft following the next, and so on and so forth....(Yes I do remmember Mayo went #10)
  9. mtbykr

    mtbykr Supporter Supporter

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    All reports that I have heard peg football as one of Russell's last priorities. I think this move helps the pats, Russell will never be a top QB and bringing in a new system for next year just slows down any learning curve that team has. Everyone expects teams to not do as well the first year of a new coach.
  10. bam15

    bam15 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Rumors are flying around that Al Davis wants to hire Mike Leach, a certain guarantee of a top 5 pick. :rolleyes:
  11. mayoclinic

    mayoclinic Supporter Supporter

    Cool. Leach and Davis is a match made in heaven. They can sue each other. :D
  12. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    And Seymour went #6... and these are the only two top 10 picks BB has ever had with the Patriots. So... what was your point again?
  13. upstater1

    upstater1 Pro Bowl Player

    The difference is that there may be a more affordable rookie scale in place which would make it worth it to draft a guy at #5.

    BB might decide that a guy at 5 is worth it simply because he won't cost that much more than the player you can take at 10 but who isn't as good in BB's eyes.
  14. Bostonian1962

    Bostonian1962 In the Starting Line-Up

    Some here will call you negative, but you are exactly right. I keep getting excited about these draft picks, but BB never cashes on them, and keeps trading down in the draft, or out of the draft all together. It's been a waste of time getting excited about draft picks, so I'm going to try not to do so this time.
  15. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract



    (reference, anyone?)
  16. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Not if there is a rookie scale in place.


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    Maybe Al should move the Raiders to Las Vegas,That way Russell will show up at meetings next time :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2010
  18. pao

    pao Third String But Playing on Special Teams

  19. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member Supporter

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    How many of those previous drafts you reference had a rookie salary cap?
  20. everlong

    everlong Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Hopefully Locker lights it up his senior year and the Raiders finish with the worst record and we can trade down still within the more affordable top ten and pick up a boat load of picks to set us up for the next several years. That would rock.
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