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  1. Triumph

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    Yeah, well, she needs to work on her tan.
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    People can whyne and bytch all they want, but this is your first family for the next 49 months.. get over it.
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    And if he had stayed the intended 10 days you'd be complaining about that, too.
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    why get over it?

    you're still whining and bytching about bush......YOU get over it
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    The Republican led congress works less than 100 days a year and the Bush administration spent more time on vacation than any in history, the hypocrisy and dishonesty on these issues is reflective of the dishonesty and hypocrisy of all those who subscribe to right wing ideology. Fortunately for all of us the republican party is like the Shakers, with one exception, they are old, white, and dying off, the only difference is the Shakers weren't filthy rich.

    Hope you enjoyed the wars and wild spending of the Bush years because you won't be seeing a republican in the White house for a long long long time, rich old white men alone are no longer enough to win national elections, and the extremist policies they promote don't appeal to anyone else.
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    except that the OP was about the first lady........ teach your brain to stay on task
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    Being Prez of the World is expensive stuff, like it or not the First Lady is part of the package. It requires her to put in a truckload of hours as well.


    If you are unhappy with the costs associated with having to look after the Prez's family then vote for single people.
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    Congress is Congress, whether led by Republicans or Democrats. Either way we the people do not even come close to getting our money's worth out of those rich, elitist bastards.

    Oh, and you are kidding yourself if you think Democrats are not also filthy rich.
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    She's no Mother Teresa that's for sure ............

    Much closer to being Mrs. Howell.
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    Has nothing to do with feeling better ... she is very accomplished, a great mom, great wife and an amazing women. I am sure she has inspired many young women in the country to reach for the stars. I have previously posted I have great respect for her more than once.

    But she still likes to spend money like a drunken sailor - it is what it is - perception is there.
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    How do you figure? She's notorious for buying clothes which are from very reasonably priced stores or new and cheap designers. She doesn't entertain lavishly. She's very hands-on with her children, who also dress quite normally and within a reasonable budget.

    She takes a few vacations a year -- as did each and every first lady before her.

    Seriously, I'd love to see what you're basing your perception on since it differs greatly from my own.
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    the same perception that has GWB actually vacationing every single one of those 1000 or so days he spent in crawford, tx even though he had meetings with 17 foreign heads of state as well as countless other government meetings during his 'vacation' time.
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    Maybe it's just me but if the choice was an extended vacation alone or spending New Year's with my spouse, I'd prefer to ring in the New Year with the spouse...
    Putting partisan politics aside for a minute, this is typical of Washington DC being oblivious to the real world. When we talk about fiscal responsibility, it saves a lot of money if you only have the jet making one trip from Hawai'i, not two. Yes it also happens with Republicans so I'm not harping because he has a D after his name, but coming back with her husband would have sent a message that they understand about saving the government money....
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    Lol PF ..... I knew that other first lady line was coming. Perception is everything and so is change from the past same old same thing.
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    I'm in no way dumb enough to think Democrats don't have more than their share of the filthy rich, the difference is that in general they aren't looking to get richer by completely screwing those who don't have much if anything. This republican party is the most extreme and irresponsible that I have ever seen, and they are only getting worse. They start wars they refuse to pay for, cut taxes on the richest with no plan to make up the difference and create huge deficits by doing so, and then blame democrats for their irresponsibility. They take one of the strongest economies in american history and lead it into economic collapse and then scream about the measures that save it from total collapse, which is really what many of them wanted, as that would have permanently bankrupted the social safety nets they hate so much. They attack women on all fronts and can't even commit to paying them equal pay for equal work. they scream about job creation while supporting policies that reward companies for shipping their work to countries with no pay or environmental standards and refuse to hold those who are hiding their incomes abroad responsible for their taxes. They support the most extreme positions of the gun nuts while 12,000 people a year, mostly young blacks, are slaughtered , and their only answer to the slaughter is more weapons, might as well be in Somalia. And now, in what may be their most irresponsible act in the long disgraceful history of their party, are looking to default on paying our bills and throw the entire world economy in depression simply because they can't have their way on billionaires paying a little more on their incomes than they do now. Oh my, Mitt may have to hold off on the waterfalls Anne wanted to put in their camps at Tahoe. In short they are batsh.t crazy and any sane person should be able to see that, unfortunately in this country members of both party's are so slavishly devoted to them that it really doesn't matter what they do because they will still support them, as will their rich donors.

    While I don't look forward to the economic suicide the crazies are promising if they don't get their way I do look forward to the impending schism in the republican party that will make it no factor in national elections, and possibly local elections going forward. At some point the sane, responsible, and concerned members of the republican party are going to separate themselves from the nutbag right wingers/tea baggers, and that schism will leave them not enough members to affect major elections. I have friends who are moderate conservatives and friends who are batsh.t crazy tea baggers, and now I get to stand by and watch as they slug it out on these issues, because that's where the real problems lie right now, between the right and the batsh.t crazy right, not between republicans and democrats.
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    Doubt it, in 4 years there will be even fewer rich old white men to vote republican, can't see any republlican winning with a "coalition" that looks exactly like Mitt Romney.


    Want to see the "coalition" the republicans have put together, go look at the class picture of the republican house leadership, might as well be a klan meeting, with one woman to take minutes, of course.
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    guess you never heard of the adage 'money changes everything' betcha mark zuckerberg was a hell of alot more liberal 10 years ago than he is now
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    Good point, there's another vote for Santorum in 2016. On the other hand they have lost the Hispanics, lost the black vote, completely lost the under 30 vote and millions more will voting in 2016, and women are going to vote for Clinton like Blacks voted for Obama. Not a pretty picture for the crazies.
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    I'm not sure your typical woman is a big fan of hilary

    dems should hope that the fiscal cliff does not happen.....

    if it does, I know the republicans will look bad, but after a political disaster like that plays itself out, you can count on the republicans heading back towards the middle and putting in a popular effort that will make things much harder for the dems in a long haul.

    as much of a 'mandate' libbies would like to think the obama election was, in all reality, the republicans were 'one issue away' in that if they were pro choice, they likely would have won the election.....the dems have to look at it in those terms.....every perspective is temporary
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    I honestly think republicans have dug themselves in a hole too deep to climb out from. They are senseless and everyone sees that moreso than ever. Ivan is right, Republicans have lost themselves and most of the potential votes with it.

    Crazies was a good word.... Todd Aiken, Richard Mourdock, Ann Coulter and even Mitt Romney were good examples of how bad the party has gotten over these past few years. I know the "out of touch" line is cliche' but its the darn truth. These people continue to damage the party and what it once stood for.
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    bah...nothing lasts....

    I understand your logic, but neither side is above screwing themselves. nothing is more off-putting than the arrogance of a liberal.....
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    All of which could have been done from the Whitehouse rather than spending $20 million on flights to and from Crawford.
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    Some are in deflection mode.

    Let's stay on topic ... Michelle Obama staying in Hawaii.
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    I already predicted that some intelligent conservative republicans are going to separate themselves from the crazies, that's why there is a major schism coming in the republican party, because batsh.t crazies like Santorum, Bachmann, Gomurt and the rest aren't going to moderate at all, and in fact they are going to treat those who do move back to the center as heretics and call for even more purification of the Party. And here is even more bad news for any intelligent conservatives who are worried about the impact of the crazies on the party and its future, Jim DeMint was named the head of the Heritage Foundation, which is a clear sign for the direction that major republican "think tank" is heading, and the senator chosen to lead the republicans senate campaigns for 2014 is a hard core tea bagger who will be looking for even more hard right challengers to incumbent republican senators, a dynamic that has already cost them 6 seats and the majority in the senate.

    If you are saying that the republicans would be wise to learn a lesson from the last election and moderate their policy positions and start actually working to resolve the problems this country is facing then I agree, however if you are saying they are going down that road as a party I don't think you could be any more wrong and their current actions and the signs pointing forward back that up. Right now all of the names other than Jeb Bush that are being floated as top republican candidates for the republican nomination are crazies like Santorum, Ryan, Rubio, and Rand Paul. All are tea baggers and all are unelectable in any national election.

    Actually I would add Christie to that list, and he would probably give them their best chance as he isn't completely nuts and is electable, but with their old rich white coalition it would still be a hell of an uphill battle, and i doubt he could win their nomination given the extreme positions any candidate has to take to get that nod.


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    ok....could have, but at least they were still productive.

    crap like this, however, will never count as days taken off by obama
    NATIONAL SECRET: What Obama daughter’s vacation cost
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    While on one of his many Crawford vacations W completely ignored the National Security briefing that told him extremists were going to crash planes into buildings in america in August 2001, a matter of weeks before 9-11. However he did get a bunch of brush cleared up in the back yard, good for him, really productive. Laziest president ever, no contest.
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