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  1. Harry Boy

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    MISS YOU?????? Holy living CRAP!!!!!ALL of this $#!T is your fault, W!!!!!


    Thanks for that energy policy, that didnt mandate a $500,000 cut off valve, or relief well in the gulf! Still gushing crude....dikhead!

    Thanks for the deregulation which investment banks mingle with public ones, biggest corporate bailout in the history of the Earth.

    Thanks for the ownership society wich encouraged predatory lending, worst housing collapse ever.

    Thanks for the 2 BILLION that went missing from the pentagon before 9-11.

    Thanks for the Iraq war, and 5,000 dead soldiers.



    Harry, I love you and all...but the a-hole who you THINK is such a stand up guy really took a giant crap on our country.


    WORST



    PRESIDENT




    EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    having said that...
    (Thank god nobody impeached or assasinated him...Cheney would've been 1,000,000x worse, and thats shocking)
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    Nope. Cant say I do. :shrugs:
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    Good thing Obama is doing exactly the opposite of all those things. Oh... wait...
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    Till now...

    having said that...
    (Thank god nobody impeached or assassinated him...Biden/Pelosi would be 1,000,000x worse.)




    You misspelled assassinated.
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    yeah....funny how we all agree that the VPs would be worse...


    Makes you kinda miss Quale ....
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    I agree to some extent. Do you blame the person who created the pi$$-poor policy or the one who ignores and goes along with most of it?


    One thing is for goddamnnn sure...


    I DO NOT MISS GEORGE W. BUSH!!!
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    For the record, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed Glass-Steagell was enacted in 1999, two years prior to W being inaugurated and we can have a healthy debate on the origins of the ownership society and predatory lending's origins but suffice to say, it too began long before 1/20/01.
    W had his faults and allowing rampant spending by Congress was one of them but the two listed above fall on someone else's doorstep.
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    If Bush did not lie, we would not be in Iraq.. not have spent 723 Billion or lost 4500+ lives, and killed somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 Iraqi's(collateral damage)..

    Do I miss him, in a short answer no!!!!!
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    No sh1t, there is plenty of blame to go around. This is one of the tenets of wanting less government. Do less harm and all that. Funny thing is that Obama would not be as bad if we had more balance. Having full control of both houses in congress and the presidency leads to only half the population being happy instead of no one happy. Moderation of both sides is a good thing, checks and balances. I feel this way when the republicans control everything as well. It's never good having all eggs in one basket.

    I don't miss Bush so much as I hate what we have now. If going back to Bush vs keeping what we have now were the only two options, there is no question what I would choose, much to my chagrin.
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    That was awesome :rofl:
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    When Bush was in office, an "insider" told me that there was mass dismantling of protections and regulations, that person has since told me that one of the issues behind the BP disaster is that when this adm. tried to regulate it, most of the regulations favored BP or had been shytcanned...

    Reminds me of the factoid that the Bankruptcy Bill passed in 2005, was actually written by Providien...
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    And Obama, who got loads of BP dollars, let everything slide on by as well. This is a problem with politicians in general and corruption in government.
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    I don't think anyone "misses" Bush. I do think people are incredibly underwhelmed by Obama. What else did people expect from someone with zero management experience.
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    Obama has had an incredibly productive first term. Probably will be the most so since LBJ.

    I don't know how you could miss Bush unless you suffer from amnesia.
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    I'm sure the "27%ers" (I miss PC), thought Bush had a very productive couple of terms too. If pouring napalm on GW's BBQ'd budget is productive, then you're absolutely right.
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    True. Bush did manage in his first term to enact policies that are responsible for the lion's share of the current budget deficit.

    As for Obama "pouring napalm on GW's BBQ'd budget," I simply disagree. And we'll leave it at that.
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    First of all he got 70K... in today's world that is not a lot, last year BP spent 15.9 million lobbying, so there was a lot of cash spread around..

    Secondly you cannot regulate, something if there are no regulations...
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    What presidents have had management experience??.. guess it depends on that definition..

    Lyndon Johnson.. career politician.. not bad got some stuff done, but Viet Nam did him in..

    Richard Nixon.. career politician.. no comment

    Gerald Ford.. career politician.. not much here

    Carter governor of Georgia.. too many f..uckups to list here..

    Reagan was governor of California.. Iran Contra & Amnesty for illegals..

    George H. Bush.. career politician.. not bad, but could have taken out Saddam, backed off

    Bill Clinton.. governor of Arkansas.. some good stuff

    George W. Bush... difficult to categorize.. Iraq debacle, the rest is too early to tell..

    Obama.. Senator..

    Do not see a lot of "management experience" in any of the above...
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    It's not his management experience or lack thereof, it's his politics put into practice. He's a closet Republican while all the ninnies are screaming Socialist. That and he's yet another president who's too closely ties to corporations.
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    "During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years, according to financial disclosure records."

    Read more: Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com
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    No. Not at all.
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    :rofl: +1 :rofl:
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    In the world of fundraising and money donated this is not a lot.. it is the most, but there is no accounting that I can find of the 15.9 million that BP spent last year lobbying..

    One could say that Bush was influenced by Haliburton and gave them no bid contracts.. Haliburton gave the Republican Party, 326 K and the Dems 45K.. but that is too easy of an answer, just like saying the Obama was influenced by BP... is a blog answer, he raised a total of 16 million and the 77K is a pittance as far as elections go..

    IN 2000 BP gave over 650K to Republicans, in the past 10 years BP has given between 71% of their contributions to Republican candidates..

    BP: Summary | OpenSecrets
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    And if you can't believe a completely anonymous "insider" friend of a completely anonymous internet poster, then whom can you believe? :rolleyes:
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    Much of what he has told me has come true.. it is not a standard of truth that would be admissable in court, just some info from someone who is near to the "action"... take it or leave it, or just do one of you classic ad hominen attacks.. we have all grown used to it.

    And you know that is has not happened how?? Did Erik Erickson tell you it was not true???
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    An Obama adminstration "insider" told me Obama hates America and hates the military. And since no one ever lies on the internet, it must be true.
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    Whatever, you want to believe so be it.. thanks for stalking...
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    Interesting how you say it's not that much in comparison but the article clearly states that in comparison to other politicians, Obama has gotten the most in 20 years. I'm sure other parties have given larger and smaller amounts to other people. What I'm driving at here is the connection between BP & Obama and there definately is a significant one in comparison to others and one could follow the money to presume that policies might have been affected or awards given for safety...

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