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    So another state budget out of balance, and the government 'shuts down'. So NPR shops for the obligatory victim, Of course they found one:


    Minnesota Shutdown Hits Poor; Aid Groups Scramble : NPR


    So the poor woman has to wait for her new government apartment until the government reopens, and she even lost day care for 6 of the kiddies, at least there is still the food stamps and other Federal goodies. I suppose it ould be too much to ask her to stay off her back or even gt married?
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    Cracks in U.S. solvency continue to spread from the federal level to the state and municipal level, and all angry partisans can do is slap a partisan explanation on it all.

    Must just be the "socialist's" fault, and the poor people who support him while waiting for a "handout."

    Meanwhile, it's state services that keep these same starving people from climbing over your gated community, taking your gun and bible, and beating you over the head with them both.

    You wanted less government, you're about to get it. And all that comes with it.
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    "get off her back or get married"?

    Do you know anything at all about her situation?
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    #24 Jersey

    Once again, you assume much and know little.

    If you read further down the story, Ms. Mills has a job, Ms. Mills has been, at the very least, helping to support herself and her children - and was, quite possibly, entirely self-sufficient until tragedy struck. She rented a home and lost the home in a tornado. No where in the article does it say that the home she lost was a "government apartment." People who lose their homes in floods or tornados or hurricanes get state aide as well as federal aid most times....all people, even well-off people. It's called disaster relief.

    And what kind of hatred makes you say things like, "stay off her back," or "even get married," when you know absolutely nothing about her situation? Maybe there's a father to those 8 kids - maybe there are several fathers - in fact, I'm SURE there is at least one father - why don't you say, "Why don't they track down the SOB father(s) of those children and make him pay support?"

    Maybe she's a widow. Maybe she's divorced. Maybe a lot of things - one thing for sure - she apparently doesn't believe in abortion, does she? Where are your props for that? Why aren't you holding her up as an example of a woman who does the right thing and doesn't abort her numerous children?

    You consistantly want it both ways, PF13, and it's painful obvious you don't understand either one.
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    #24 Jersey

    A little more about Sonia Mills - who actually sounds like a woman with guts to me.


    It’s been almost four weeks since a deadly tornado hit north Minneapolis, leaving hundreds displaced. Many are still without a home.

    For Sonya Mills and her six children, it’s been a living nightmare.

    “I sometimes feel like I’m in another world,” said Mills. “I walk outside and realize I’m living in a community center.”

    The tornado partially ripped off the roof of Mills’ home. On top of that, a water pipe busted and flooded her house and a gas line ruptured, forcing her to evacuate.

    “I began calling friends and family,” said Mills. “I’m a family of seven, so it was pretty hard to find somebody to commit to our family.”

    The night of the tornado, Mills and her six kids stayed at the Northeast Minneapolis Armory with a number of others. She’s now been at North Commons for two weeks.

    Mills took 30 days off work to get situated and found a place to stay, but it won’t be ready until July 1.

    “Ninety-five percent of the people coming in here are trying to subject the families to the Drake Hotel, People Serving People, places for homeless people,” said Mills. “I was almost forced to go there and I said I am not going to subject my kids to that type of environment.”


    Tornado Victims Asked To Leave Community Center « CBS Minnesota
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    Come on, mrs, don't you know that women who have sex are sluts, and single mothers are irresponsible sluts?

    funny, some righties invoke terms like misogyny and racism any time people are remotely critical about female or black pubbies, yet their own words betray their true personal attitudes.
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    #87 Jersey

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    Not to say anyone deserves things
    but they elected this clown and now they wonder what happened???
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    Are you trying to insinuate that Ventura is to blame for the fiscal problems of today? Please say you are. Should go well for you.

    Anyhow, wow... Is the partisan king here taking a beating in this thread.
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    #87 Jersey

    No I am not saying that at all ... just using him as an example of voters electing saviors and then wondering what happened. State voters need to pay more attention to the people they elect to lead their house and senate - just as in DC these are the people who are responsible for the mess the country and the states are in.
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    #24 Jersey

    I don't know anything about who started the budget crisis in Minnesota - but didn't Pawlenty have two full terms to straighten out anything Jesse might have done?
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    #87 Jersey

    As I said ... I used him as an example that we try to elect saviors instead of electing people that really could help. We elect saviors and lawyers and professional politicians when we should be electing business people, accountants, doctors etc... latest example is Obama and then we will find another savior while we elect lousy senators and congress people.

    I look at the people we have here in Rhode Island ... a house and senate loaded with lawyers - yes - we are also broke and broken. We are responsible because we do not vote as carefully as we should. We are easily swayed with words of hope. pawlenty for President ... now that would be a joke wouldn't it.
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    Who could possibly "help" a poisonous, fiat-based financial paradigm 7 decades in the making? Seriously, who would you propose?

    This will not be isolated to Minnesota, either. There's a reason Gingrich tried to pass that bill for state bankruptcies. It's that bad.
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    #75 Jersey

    Like most of what you say, but still would rather have an economist than a businessman. They're as full of crap as the preachers are. It ain't all about the bottom line.
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    Economics is not a science.

    I would rather have a scientist in office.

    George W. Bush’s orgy of tax cuts for the wealthy resulted in eight years of zero net jobs created. Zero. His famous tax cuts got us $0.32 for every dollar invested; a 68% loss. And yet today the country’s economic policies are routinely distorted and even hijacked by those who think these tax cuts were a great success. They are economic equivalent of physicians who reject germ theory.
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    "They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
    If they need more voters,
    then they have to make more of who they are for."
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    Clever.... Unfortunately, capital is a zero sum. There's not nearly enough of it to "make everyone rich."

    The more economic disparity and the harder times get, conservatives have to use more and more smoke and mirrors in order to win elections.
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    Depends how you measure wealth...
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    Not exactly true, though a lot depends on the terms. But clearly capital / wealth can grow for many, if not all -- when you look at living conditions, for example. Everybody isn't "rich" today relative to one another, but I'd far rather be poor today than poor 150 years ago.
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    What more readily advances the lowest denominator? Status quo?
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    The right always demonizes a specific person, organization or class of people in justifying their "crusade"...

    In this case they will chastise this women, who we know little about, but excuse the likes of Ensigh, Sanford or Vitter.. the last of whom still makes decisions for this country.

    This is the atypical position of the "pro-pregnancy" party, they want everyone to go full term on their pregnancy and bring forth children to populate this country.. but after the kids are born f... them they are on their own.

    Hypocrisy, duplicity.. the right is full of folks like that. They know best for all of us, the granny state right.. they know who to blame, and who is the culprit... but they never have anything culpibility in this mess.
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