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    I think the rise of militias is mostly due to prejudice, since I believe these militias consist of almost only white guys who fear Obama because he's (1) black, (2) "Muslim," (3) "foreign born." Of course, among these militias are those who fear economic collapse because of Obama's "socialist" policies and those who are your run-of-the-mill survivalists. But, the driving factor behind these militias is the increasing marginalization of white men. They once ruled society, now they risk becoming mere equals and that's a real head trip for them.

    Militia movement resurfaces across U.S. - Life- msnbc.com

    At least 50 new right-wing militia groups have been identified by the Montgomery, Ala.-based Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit civil rights organization. All have formed within the last two years, many spreading their speeches and combat exercises on YouTube.
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    They don't want a "Socialist Dictator Government" sitting in the bathroom with them when they're constipated, they don't want those creeps in congress telling their women when and when not they should be examined for cancer, they don't want Prince Barack Hussein Obama's picture hanging over their beds, they don't want Rotten Pelosi telling them who to bring home for dinner or when they should have their Colon examined.

    AMERICA A COUNTRY FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE AMERICA WILL NEVER TOLERATE A DICTATOR AMERICA DOES NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT IN THEIR HOME, A MANS HOME IS HIS OWN LITTLE CASTLE AND HIS GUN HELPS PROTECT IT.
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    Extremist groups are always on the rise during difficult economic times... a good source to monitor this stuff is...

    SPLCenter.org: SPLC Report: Return of the Militias

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    You guys just don't stop, do you? The seemingly never ending posts about white people that aren't liberals all belonging to or being sympathetic to fringe radical groups. At least we all lean in that direction, right? Do you post this stuff just to marginalize anyone here that doesn't like the civil trials or some other legitamate debatebal issues or what? I can tell you that if you're not, thats what it looks and feels like.
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    Any grass roots movements against this government are because it's the most radical, leftist government the country has ever seen. It's not because obama is half black, it's because he's a nut job.
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    Are you ignoring the reality that the militia movement is back??? If you don't talk about it, it doesn't exist???
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    The militias cause less actually harm than ACORN.
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    How did you possibly read that into anything anyone posted. Not all conservatives are racist, but the fringe conservatives are sometimes racist and are joining extremist groups. Are you trying to defend them?

    The right wing, rather than criticize its extremist elements seems to apologize for them. Conservatives need to show the same guts that Democrats showed under JFK/LBJ, when they threw out the racist Dixiecrats (who Ronnie Reagan quickly rounded up). Republicans have shown a lack of integrity in confronting the right-wing extremists in their own backyard. Liberals have, over the last 40 years, thrown out not only right-wingers, but also Communists and other far left elements.

    I think conservatives need to grow a couple and start standing up to extremists in their own ranks.
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    When is the last time ACORN killed any one, or committed an act of terrorism in this country???
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    Of course it's back, WHAT CAUSED IT TO COME BACK, it's not the Dirty White Mother F-ckers that caused it to come back it's the direction this arrogant socialist jerk we have for a president, his blind far left administration and a near communist congress that is the cause of their return.

    GOD DAMN WHITE PEOPLE
    GOD DAMN AMERICA
    GOD DAMN GOD
    GOD DAMN PALIN
    GOD DAMN BUSH
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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:....OK What ever you say. :singing:
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    god damn stupid harry boy... In his world everyone is responsible for someone elses behavior...sounds like a freaking liberal to me...
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    Not all liberals want to kill babies, Not all Muslims are terrorist extermists, not all blacks are this, not all Jews are that. After the umpteenth post about fringe groups that are those things you start to see that the little "not all are" disclaimers become a joke. no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

    I do not apologize for any group with extermist elements and I resent the hints that anyone that has a problem with some of the administrations policies somehow is linked with those fringe groups because gee, racists don't like Obamas policies and conservatives don't like some of Obamas policies so bingo! they're the same! They're motivated by racism!

    The democratic party has many racists in it by the way. I run into them every day. The act and talk liberal but they show their hand with their jokes and snide remarks.
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    I guess this man is a racist too.

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    If your a White Christian Republican your "racist"

    Racism elected this president, Racism destroyed Pant Suit Hillary, Geraldine Ferarro had the balls to say it and was crucified by the "Racist Obama Media"
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    I've never met anyone who can turn every and anything into racism as you can. :rolleyes:

    Lets hope these "militia" aren't posted at voting places
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    Sort of striking how questions about extremist militias cropping up turns not into a condemnation of extremism, but a condemnation of anyone who dare suggests there is racism among these extremists. In my view, the righties in this thread have indirectly defended the rise of these militias, which just goes to show how in what sad state of disrepair American conservatism is today.
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    I think DarrylS said it best and I will quote his words from another thread as they obviously apply to the above post:

    Another 5 star partisan thread from a partisan moderator... NRO and Townhall... talk about stuck on stupid...

    "Great thread"... your standards are a little lower than whale shyt...

    Would think that the mod would try to promote a modicum of balance, rather than just more partisan axe to grind bullshyt, but we all know how you get the big beat down on about everything you post... the fraudulent behavior continues..
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    I take it you're another right-winger who is defending the militias and disregarding the fact that groups that monitor racist activities are concerned by these developments? If so, then it supports the contention that traditional conservatives are enabling extremism. That's actually what happened in Germany in the 1920s when legitimate interests chose to enable extremist elements who eventually took over and committed some the worst crimes in history. Why not criticize these militia groups? Or perhaps you support militia groups?
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    Where have I defended any of these particular militias? Weren't you just complaining in another thread about having your own statements misrepresented? That is exactly what you are doing here.
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    Well, I should have put a question mark after my comment, but it's hard to tell where you stand because your only comment so far has been about me, and not about the subject of the thread. I presumed you were trying to deflect the issue, rather than respond (and, by the way, you still haven't responded).
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    I don't think it has to do with the marginalization of white men. That's the lazy way to look at it. There's something else going on in our culture. It has been growing slowly over the last decade or two. I think your point is somewhat valid in the sense that if Barry weren't black the same outcome would have occurred, it would have just taken longer. More so than race I would say the combination of a poor economy and the feeling by some of a lack of representation by government is closer to the root cause.
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    Nor am I going to, because this thread is nothing more than a lame attempt on your part to tie in mainstream conservatism with extremist groups. Groups that advocate destruction, violence or other illegal means to advance their agendas are reprehensible and there is no shortage of such groups on either side of the spectrum. Given that you constantly criticize right wing extremists and never say a word of criticism towards left wing extremists suggests that you support those who commit violence for left wing causes.
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    As I already stated, my complaint about mainstream conservatives if they haven't shown the balls like Democrats did with Communists and Dixiecrats years ago. Democrats knew those groups had to be ousted from the Party not only for the good of the Party, but for the good of the country. Conservatives, desperate to hold onto political power, are willing to form unholy alliances with right-wing extremists. You, like most conservatives, are not showing courage or you would condemn (or defend) militias.

    The left-wing extremists were rejected by liberals and the Democrat Party years ago, especially in 1968 during the Chicago riots (though the Dems through out the good with the bad back then, in my opinion). Left wing extremism is not a significant political force. anymore and certainly is not organizing gun-toting militias. I think the Republican Party is filled with cowardice or it would pay the price to straighten itself out and oust its most extremist elements. If it did that, it would make up for any losses by reclaiming a number of moderates.
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    I agree that poor economy plays a major role, and many of the people in these militias are neither Republican nor Democrat for they are against the corporate state, Wall Street, as well as labor unions, etc. That said, I do think some of them are part of the conspiracy nut group that believes Obama's a Muslim, Socialist, etc., and those are the ones who worry me the most.
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    IMO all of this extremism is galvanized by the internet and reliance on blogs...time after time stuff is posted here on very inflammatory issues that are begged and lied about, and people are too lazy to research...

    Also think that a lot of this stuff is also fueled by the continual rhetoric on both sides of the aisle, yesterday or the day before on Hannity was asked what she read and first out of her mouth was Newsmax... nuf said.

    Also in times of economic difficulty there is always a rise in extremism... it happened in the early 90's as well...
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    I directly stated that I do not defend them. Extremist groups have many racists among them. If you're tieing me in any way to them then you deserve condemnation for it. Sometimes you come across as the most prejudiced person ont the board because of your generalizations. The link that did it for me was the one about fearing economic collapse. I get it, anyone that debates his economic policies lands them smack them right in the same neighborhood as these fringe groups that don't like Obama because he's black and he's Muslim. Are you doing that on purpose?
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