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  1. Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

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    Four military recruiters hastily fled a job fair Tuesday morning at UC Santa Cruz after a raucous crowd of student protesters blocked an entrance to the building where the Army and National Guard had set up information tables.

    Members of Students Against War, who organized the counter-recruiting protest, loudly chanted "Don't come back. Don't come back" as the recruiters left the hilltop campus, escorted by several university police officers.

    "The situation had degraded to the point where there was a possibility of injury to either a student or law enforcement officer. We certainly didn't want that to happen,'' said Capt. Will Griffin, one of the Army recruiters.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/12/BAG3KI7INT1.DTL
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    Good job, students .... Put your school's federal funding in jeopardy ...
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    I am glad that our young men and women are finally waking up and speaking up.
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    Screw them, they don't have to sign up. Everyone who's over there volunteered.
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    I think the ideals are good, but the execution was flawed. All they did was make themselves out to be the intolerant agressors.

    Had they instead set up a booth under the heading "Service Alternatives" (or the like), they would have shown a great deal more maturity and intelligence.
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    The alternative is : Don't Sign Up. There's not a draft anymore.
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    Geez, this is sounding more and more like that little SE Asia conflict that took place in the late 60's and early 70's...do not want to say Viet Nam Deja Vu, but will anyways.
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    The group was called "Students Against War" - what are they supposed to do, stand by passively while the recruiters do whatever they want? I understand the courts have ruled in favor of recruiters, but it's good to see some civil disobedience on campus again. There needs to be a spark somewhere to get us out of Iraq. This country is in a coma and needs to snap out of it.

    Military recruiters fleeing from college kids is a real bad image for the military effort in the middle east as a whole. And what does federal funding have to do with student groups shouting down recruiters and making them flee? Will funding be tied to keeping your damn mouth shut from now on?
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    So much for "supporting the troops"
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    If you oppose the war you oppose the troops, blah, blah, blah...
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    Thats why we "DON'T WANT A DRAFT" America doesn't need those Jerks in the military, I wouldn't want one of them trying to protect my cat.

    The Military is far better off without them.
    __________________________________________________________
    SUPPORT THE TROOPS AND THE COUNTRY OR GET THE F-CK OUT YOU A SS HOLES.
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    REMEMBER 9/11, THEY WILL BE BACK AND WE DON'T WANT YOU B ASTARDS TRYING TO FIGHT THEM, GO PLAY WITH YOUR LITTLE TOY DRUM AND MAKE SOME HATE BUSH SIGNS.
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    Geez, Harry this is a little strong for even you...
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    Complete with the foreign communist government funding the student protests?

    Maybe the students are working for the terrorists this time?

    Either way, I'mure that it will help our troops to know about this, and it will not give aid and comfort to the enemy.

    After all if we just leave, they won't attack us, it's not like they had already attacked us 10 times before the war and how many times since???? 0
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    I protested in the 60's sans compensation, knew a lot of very poor protesters, never saw any money anywhere...think that whole communist funding is a product of some right wing think tank..
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    No its called the KGB opening their files, look it up, you were one of what Castro likes to call his "useful idiots"
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    **** you...
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    Here's a letter from Kerry's handler: I'm sure one dya we will find the mullah behind these current protests:


    Kerry’s Soviet Rhetoric
    The Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Kremlin.

    By Ion Mihai Pacepa

    Part of Senator John Kerry's appeal to a certain segment of Americans is his Vietnam-veteran status coupled with his antiwar activism during that period. On April 12, 1971, Kerry told the U.S. Congress that American soldiers claimed to him that they had, "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned on the power, cut off limbs, blew up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."

    The exact sources of that assertion should be tracked down. Kerry also ought to be asked who, exactly, told him any such thing, and what it was, exactly, that they said they did in Vietnam. Statutes of limitation now protect these individuals from prosecution for any such admissions. Or did Senator Kerry merely hear allegations of that sort as hearsay bandied about by members of antiwar groups (much of which has since been discredited)? To me, this assertion sounds exactly like the disinformation line that the Soviets were sowing worldwide throughout the Vietnam era. KGB priority number one at that time was to damage American power, judgment, and credibility. One of its favorite tools was the fabrication of such evidence as photographs and "news reports" about invented American war atrocities. These tales were purveyed in KGB-operated magazines that would then flack them to reputable news organizations. Often enough, they would be picked up. News organizations are notoriously sloppy about verifying their sources. All in all, it was amazingly easy for Soviet-bloc spy organizations to fake many such reports and spread them around the free world.

    As a spy chief and a general in the former Soviet satellite of Romania, I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between America and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."

    The KGB organized a vitriolic conference in Stockholm to condemn America's aggression, on March 8, 1965, as the first American troops arrived in south Vietnam. On Andropov's orders, one of the KGB's paid agents, Romesh Chandra, the chairman of the KGB-financed World Peace Council, created the Stockholm Conference on Vietnam as a permanent international organization to aid or to conduct operations to help Americans dodge the draft or defect, to demoralize its army with anti-American propaganda, to conduct protests, demonstrations, and boycotts, and to sanction anyone connected with the war. It was staffed by Soviet-bloc undercover intelligence officers and received about $15 million annually from the Communist Party's international department — on top of the WPC's $50 million a year, all delivered in laundered cash dollars. Both groups had Soviet-style secretariats to manage their general activities, Soviet-style working committees to conduct their day-to-day operations, and Soviet-style bureaucratic paperwork. The quote from Senator Kerry is unmistakable Soviet-style sloganeering from this period. I believe it is very like a direct quote from one of these organizations' propaganda sheets.

    The KGB campaign to assault the U.S. and Europe by means of disinformation was more than just a few Cold War dirty tricks. The whole foreign policy of the Soviet-bloc states, indeed its whole economic and military might, revolved around the larger Soviet objective of destroying America from within through the use of lies. The Soviets saw disinformation as a vital tool in the dialectical advance of world Communism.

    The Stockholm conference held annual international meetings up to 1972. In its five years of existence it created thousands of "documentary" materials printed in all the major Western languages describing the "abominable crimes" committed by American soldiers against civilians in Vietnam, along with counterfeited pictures. All these materials were manufactured by the KGB's disinformation department. I would print up these materials in hundreds of thousands of copies each.

    The Romanian DIE (Ceausescu's secret police) was tasked to distribute these KGB-concocted "incriminating documents" all over Western Europe. And ordinary people often bought it hook, line, and sinker. "Even Attila the Hun looks like an angel when compared to these Americans," a West German businessman reprovingly told me after reading one such report.

    The Italian, Greek, and Spanish Communist parties serviced by Bucharest were much affected by this material and their activists regularly distributed translations. They also handed them out to the participants at anti-American demonstrations around the world.

    Many "Ban-the-Bomb" and anti-nuclear movements were KGB-funded operations, too. I can no longer look at a petition for world peace or other supposedly noble cause, particularly of the anti-American variety, without thinking to myself, "KGB."

    In 1978, when I broke with Communism, my DIE was propagating the line that Washington's adventure in Vietnam had wasted over $200 trillion. This waste, we warned darkly, would soon generate European inflation, recession, and unemployment.

    As far as I'm concerned, the KGB gave birth to the antiwar movement in America. In 1976, Andropov gave my own Romanian DIE credit for helping his KGB do so.

    Leftist intellectuals in America now look to Europe — steeped for years in anti-American propaganda from the Soviet Union — for "a sane and frank European criticism of the Bush administration's war policy." Indeed, anti-Americanism in Europe today is almost as ferocious as it was during Vietnam. France and Germany insist we are torturing the al Qaeda prisoners held at Guantanamo Base. The Mirror, a British newspaper, is confident that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair were "killing innocents in Afghanistan." The Paris daily Le Monde put Jean Baudrillard on its front page asserting that "the Judeo-Christian West, led by America, not only provoked the [September 11] terrorist attacks, it actually desired them."

    In June 2002, a documentary film on "U.S. war crimes" in Afghanistan was shown in the German Bundestag by the crypto-Communist Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS). The film faithfully reincarnated the style of old Soviet-bloc "documentaries" demonizing the U.S. war in Vietnam. According to this 20-minute movie, American soldiers were involved in the torture and murder of some 3,000 Taliban prisoners in the region of Mazar-e-Sharif. One witness in the film even claimed he had seen an American soldier break the neck of one Afghan prisoner and pour acid on others.

    During my last meeting with Andropov, he said, wisely, "now all we have to do is to keep the Vietnam-era anti-Americanism alive." Andropov was a shrewd judge of human nature. He understood that in the end our original involvement would be forgotten, and our insinuations would take on a life of their own. He knew well that it was just the way human nature worked.

    — Ion Mihai Pacepa was acting chief of Romania's espionage service and national-security adviser to the country's president. He is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.
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    John Fonda Kerry is a traitorious piece of sh!t just like the Swift Boat guys said he was, the people knew and they REJECTED him, f-ck him and his surfboard.
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    Yup, that's a whole lot of facts in that plagerized paper, FTW. You got a problem with following the rules of copywrite infringement? It's always great to hear from a lying, piece-of-crap Romanian how easily duped the American people are by the KGB. Thanks a lot for setting us all straight. I mean, I had no idea that every anti-war protest anywhere on the planet was funded by the KGB. Even the Swedes fell victim to their influence? Wow! If it weren't for the KGB, there would have been no protests or even an anti-war movement at all. Amazing!

    You obviously think in your revisionist version of history, that the illegal war in Viet Nam was noble and had a real purpose other than lining the pockets of General Dynamics and Northrop. Tell us all what the real purpose was in Nam, FTW, other than "the purpose was to win because we were there". To even suggest the war in Nam was made worse by protesters at home while our guys were being killed by the hundreds is insane. We lost the war because we had no support in country or at home because our government didn't give a damn about the soldiers or the people of Viet Nam.

    The first move fascists make in their attack on dissidents is to label them "intellectuals" as if that were a negative thing. Then they roll out the same old tired expressions like "subversives", seditious", and "collaborator". It's an old game played by evil old men who have a blood lust for war and are the last to run to the front with a gun.

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