Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by BelichickFan, Aug 22, 2006.
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Can someone please ask him why he didn't report the whole AP story on McGinest and just focused on the positive stuff? I know if Borges did this the other way we would be going crazy. Reiss reported that McGinest reluctantly gave up his number but said Seau made it what is was at USC. However, he left out the quote that was the entire story when McGinest said about if he went to San Diego, 55 wouldn't have even been an option. Just more unbiased reporting from Mike Reiss. Seriously, does he still get a paycheck from PFW because he's less objective than the people who work for the team. The story is what McGinest said about his number and Reiss totally left it out. Embarassing reporting. Maybe he was too busy joining the Bill Belichick kiss my ass club but I thought he was already the president.
Classic post. Maybe after your done being a tough guy wannabe on the internet you can go outside and beat up some children.
I don't have a link but if you go to the Globe's Patriots page I'm sure there will be one there ahead of time.
That is a stupid post.
I'm sure that you won't take offense to that because I'm only trying to be objective and not kiss your ass.
Who did I say I was going to beat up? I made a post on Reiss report and how he slanted it. How can you be that offended by that post? Are you in love with Mike Reiss? However if you have a problem like that, you can always PM me and we can take care of this on our own time.
Why is it stupid? Defend your opinion. I backed up my argument. You just say it's stupid. Where are your facts? Reiss once again left out information because he doesn't want to say anything negative about the team and what they're doing. There is my argument. What is yours?
Wait...you really are Ron Borges. At least there is one person in town who isnt a total jackass reporter like everyone else. Why the hell does it matter if he left out a part? Willie McGinnest is just being an ***** hole, why post all the crap he said? Willie can go have fun with his new money.
No, i said your an internet tough guy who will probably go outside and beat up some children.
The post is horrible Reiss is the only Patriots reporter to always come out and have more news first than most other reporters. Also Reiss more often than not sees things from a fans point of view and doesnt have to go out of there way to bash everything that the Patriots do. That would be Ron Borges in the most extreme example. Nothing can be done right.
I would send you a PM but im afraid of the dumb responses i would get.
I know, that's why it's stupid. And you don't have to explain stupid, it just is.
Now, I'm just trying to be objective, so I don't know why you are upset about it.
Ron, have you punched out any infirmed, today?
Actually, I've got to agree w/ Ron here.
Reiss does have a lot of news first... but why do you think that is? It's because he's given unrivaled access to the team and is often fed advance info by the Pats media reps. In order to keep this access, Reiss seems all too willing to play the role of a "party organ" and report with a strong pro-company bias. He stonewalls stories about injuries until the Pats FO is ready to release something, he reports only the contract negotiation details the Pats FO wants out there, and he pretty much never digs around anything the franchise doesn't want him to.
In a way, you can't blame him. His blog is a valuable service to Pats fans. The kind of access he get enables him to give us the kind of up-close, in depth (if censored) look at the Pats operation -- and somebody has to toe the line to get it, so it might as well be him.
Still, I hold a lot more respect for guys like Tomase. He's a digger. He was way out in front on the story of Bruschi's wrist injury, and has been shown to be 100% correct. Do you think that's going to earn him any favors from the Pats FO? No. But he reported it anyway, because he's a real journalist. Yes, it could make his job harder down the line -- this is part of the reason why I respect him. Reporters like Tomase's jobs are much harder than guys like Reiss, who most of time is just paraphrasing a release.
Mike_Reiss: Getting ready to roll here. Been a busy day here at Gillette Stadium, with Bill Belichick's press conference (10:45 a.m.), players speaking in the locker room (11:15-11:55 a.m.), and then access to practice (1 p.m.) for stretching and individual drills. Offensive tackle Nick Kaczur returned to practice, as did linebacker Monty Beisel and safety Rodney Harrison. It's a full-pads workout. Players drawing a lot of attention in the locker room included Harrison, Kaczur and linebacker Junior Seau. In practice, Seau was working in individual drills next to Mike Vrabel on the inside.
Sammime: have you heard rumors that Deion Branch may fire his agent? Don't you think that it would be better for him to start over with someone new?
Mike_Reiss: I did hear those rumors. Checked with the NFL Players Association this morning and they still have the same agent on file as representing Deion Branch. That paperwork can sometimes be slow to be processed, so it's possible that it's true. But I haven't been able to confirm that.
Did he hear them from someone else besides Dickerson?
go_pats: How does harrison look in practice to you? Will he be ready for opening day against the Bills?
Mike_Reiss: Harrison looks good when he's cutting, but the key is how he responds to contact. He was asked today if he's absorbed his first contact yet and he said he had. Later, he took back those comments.
The thing didn't work for me! Just gave me an error. oh well.
FINALLY someone said it. Graham is valuable to the Patriots very valuable. And for you recieving tight end stat lovers, Graham is the best Patriots tight end all around.
I laughed when Mike was asked who would have the most receptions and he said Asante Samuel.
Obviously it was a mistake but I actually thought it would have been a wise guy answer. Since the Patriots really dont have many big name recievers who will get many catches. And afterall Samuel looks to be an INT machine.
I'm not sure I follow your logic. How does not humiliating Willie McGinest make Mike Reiss a toady for Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick and Junior Seau called Willie McGinest and asked about use of the number. A later bitter reaction by Willie McGinest does not reflect badly on Bill Belichick, so how could Mike Reiss be showing favoritism to Bill Belichick?
By not repeating the bitter statement by Willie McGinest, Mike Reiss is not protecting Bill Belichick, he is protecting Willie McGinest.
Everyone says things in the heat of the moment, especially NFL players who are highly emotional. I dislike reporters who feel it necessary to embarrass players after catching them at an emotional time.
The story of what Willie McGinest said is out there. There is no need to repeat it at every possible opportunity, ad nauseum.
But Mike Reiss was showing consideration for Willie McGinest, not Bill Belichick.
(I just realized that because of your screen name, perhaps you are just acting like Ron Borges for a joke, saying the stupid things the real Ron Borges would say. Sometimes internet sarcasm goes over my head. If you were being intentionally stupid for a joke, I apologize).
Shmessy got his question in there, but mine went ingored!
Me: Mike, any idea why the poster on Patsfans.com known as "I'm Ron Borges?" seems so insanely jealous of you? Whaddya do, steal his girlfriend in college or something?
I was really hoping for some closure on this issue.
By the way, I agree brady2brown, I thought those comments that the Borges caricature took excepetion with made Willie look bad, not the Patriots. And let's not forget, this wasn't an article that IRB is referring to, it was in a bunch of "blurbs" at the end of an article. To expect him to include the entire AP story is foolish. It was a "in other news" one liner, nothing more.
Question: Can Seau still play?
Reiss: Opinions on Seau differ depending on who you ask.
He asked you Mike! He didn't ask for what all the opinions on Seau are. He asked for your opinion and you obviously had a negative take on it so you took the easy way out as usual and gave a generic answer. What a joke. That was the most boring thing I've ever sat through. I gave it a fair chance but how many times is he going to tell us the Patriots have good tight ends and run down the starting offensive line. Wow, that's stuff you can't get any place else. What a freaking savior.
Ok son, go back and read you're Ron Borges article if you think the best Patriots reporter's thoughts and news are boring and stupid.
Gee whiz. I guess Reiss is no Ron Borges.
Maybe "I am Ron Borges?" needs to start writing for the globe.
It seems as though he feels he could do a better job.
He not a big fan of Mrs. B's reporting either.
God forbid, how could anyone have a positive attitude in their Patriots news?
I'm having fun laughing at the depression of Red Sox Nation, they should be getting the bulk of the negative articles.
Ummm... today was the first day Seau practiced with the team, wasn't it? Other than that, he hasn't been on a football field since November of last year. So based on one practice you want Reiss to form some kind of opinion, any kind of opinion just to spew something out? I'm glad he's judicious with his opinion, it makes it more valuable when it's shared.
See, you follow a chat like that for entertainment, which of course left you wanting, we were after info and news about our team.
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