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    Mike Lombardi was on 98.5 with Ted Sarandis today and Lombardi feels the young players on this defense are talent and he feels that this defense will be a good defense the second half of the year. He really think Mayo will emerge this year too. He thinks that the only thing this defense really needs to be good is experience.

    On a side note, I forgot how bad Ted Sarandis really is. The guy barely knows the Pats' players. He constantly referred to the official unofficial Pats depth chart to name the starters. Unfortunately for him, that depth chart is majorly wrong with Sanders and Guyton starting over Chung and Spikes. Apparently Sarandis didn't realize it. He also kept referring to Revis' deal as seven years, $46 million (really a four year, $46 million with a three year option). He was so adament that the Jets were clearly better than the Pats and the best the Pats would do is 9-7 (which I have no problem with him predicting), he ruined the interview with Lombardi because he so tried to get Lombardi to back up his position by stearing the questions that way and Lombardi is high on the Pats (at least for the division) and think the Jets are way overhyped and may be somewhere around 8-8. Lombardi is a Belichick butt boy so I take his predictions with a grain of salt.
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    I agree with Lombardi on BOTH points:

    1 ~ Mayo ~ despite what many say ~ is poised for an HUGE year.

    2 ~ The Patriots Defense should finish the year VERY strongly, after a shaky start.
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    If you want to see Lombardi with a better platform for giving what sounds like the same points, he was on Bill Simmons' podcast pretty recently, and while Simmons also thinks the Pats are mediocre, he did at least give Lombardi room to make his points.
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    The sad thing is you could almost hear Sarandis pouting that Lombardi didn't agree with him. It just made for a bad interview. At one point, Lombardi said that he thought he was on a NY radio station after the way Sarandis talked about the Jets. You don't build up a guest as a brilliant NFL analyst and when he doesn't agree with your opinion, you don't try to manipulate what they say to agree with you.
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    Well, hopefully Lombardi will turn out to have been prescient.
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    BTW, Lombardi gushed about the Jarrad Page. He thinks he will be huge for the Pats in the red zone. Lombardi says he is a very smart player who doesn't bite on QB fakes like Meriweather can from time to time (that is what he said).
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    We are in for some bumps in the road as far as the defense goes, but the more experience they can get together out the year, the better they'll be. I think the second half of the year prediction is a good one.
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    With any ILB in a 3-4 their having a monster year is based on how good the defensive front plays. After Vince there's a whole lot of unproven on that line right now When Mayo is allowed to range free to the ball he does a great job but when a guard gets out on him he still hasn't figured it out and doesn't hold his ground. I don't think he'll ever be a Ted Johnson squaring up a guard but Tedy was a master at mixing it up on them by sometimes taking on the blocks and sometimes swimming around them. It kept the OL honest. Granted Tedy wasn't doing those things in his first two years either. It's a long learning process.

    I hope he has a monster year but I'm cautiously optimistic.
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    Sounds from your comments that he is saying something positive but Mike Lombardi is about the worst analyst I've even come across.
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    What do you expect from 98.5, I had it on for 5 minutes when I ran to the store today and it was 5 minutes of Felger going over every draft mistake that the Pats have made since 06. Balanced talk is one thing but these guys are way over the top trying to be contrarian.
    On a side not I hit myself in the head with a baseball bat for leaving that station on for the whole ride to the store. :bricks:
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    I disagree with him almost as frequently as I agree with him, but he actually bases his arguments in reality and remains pretty objective. On that basis alone, he's one of the best.
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    I know that Sarandis hates Belichick.

    Wasn't it Sarandis who called Belichick "POND SCUM" when Kraft hired him
    prior to the 2000 season?

    I listen to 98.5 sometimes on Sunday afternnoon on my way to work.
    At this point in the season, I jones for Patriots talk and I am tired of
    listening to the Red Sox on my drive to work.

    Yesterday Sarandis was questioning why Belichick would cut one of his
    best pass rushers in Burgess.

    Has he watched Burgess since he joined the Pats?

    Sarandis should stick to college basketball.
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    I know it's not going to happen on this forum, but you can't put a whole lot of stock into however this defense looks the first few weeks. Can't get too high if they look great and can't get too low if they look terrible. This process requires lots of patience and things will change alot by season's end. I remember how awful the defenses of 2001, 2003, and 2005 looked early on and how great they were at the end (even though '05 ended bad overall, the defense was damn stout). At the same time I remember 2002 and 2006
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    Sarandis is insufferable, in his quest to be edgy, he comes across as just flat out dumb.. there is a reason he is on the weekends.. he really knows crap about the Patriots..

    Glad to see Lombardi, who is generally respected, to have been more positive than the azz clown weekend radio hosts...
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    Thats the thing Sarandis is a hoops guy. he really doesnt know much about the Pats and after yesterday you will not hear him till hoops season
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    I am glad I don't live in New England so I don't have to listen to the negative talk radio. But then again, that's what talk radio mostly is.:p
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    Guys like Lombardi and Mayock are pretty much the only ones worth their salt in the national media.

    Of course, I have been drinking today so I'm sure I may be forgetting a few, but the point stands.
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    We need to be lucky to be good on defense. This defense is very young and very thin; we will need a lot of luck. Brace, Cunningham and McCourtney need to produce and we need to to be very healthy because we already had all the injuries we could afford and then already.
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    You are 100% right about this defense needing time to jell - I do believe they will come of age by the second half of the season.

    I also think you must have been joking with your first line, you know darn well there will be doom & gloomers galore tripping over each other as they jump off the bandwagon, only to return in droves when things go well.
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    I heard him make this point also and took it as a major positive for the upcoming season.
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    I happened to listen to sarandis last Sunday didn't even know he still did radio. Any way... I never have called to a sports talk show but almost did. Again he had no idea what the oats depth chart was, and he was actually angry that the Patriots were letting Adalius Thomas go to the jets to hurt them and was saying the pats should re-sign Thomas. As if he had no idea that A. Thomas can't play B. That the bridge had been burnt. He said he could see a 6-10 season. Then callers were agreeing with him and they sounded like regular callers. Keep in mind this is the same guy who wanted fans to call ABC and tell FIFA to ban vuvuzellas at the world cup. As if abc has the clout to make fans abandon their national traditions for a world tournament. The guy is a clueless old man who can't understand why BC basketball is not the most followed sports team in Boston.
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    Did Sarandis ask Lombardi about the lack of interest in college sports in Boston? The lack of places to eat late at night?

    I like to think that some things stay the same.
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    I like Mike because by and large he is thoughtful and when it comes to BB somewhat insightful where Bill and this system are concerned because he came up under him in Cleveland and he apprecaites where both Bill and his system went from there. Same deal with Mayock although he and I tend to disagree on QB assessment... That Lombardi picked Miami early this pre season and has stuck with it baffles me...

    As for Ted Sarandis, he is a mean spirited little man on so many levels and college hoops are his thing (to the point he hates Boston fans because they aren't into college sports the way many areas who long lagged on pro teams are). He was on for the holiday weekend as a fill in and it's hard to tell which was worse or more egotistical, him or the full of themselves callers he was attracting. My favorite sounded like his old pal Ray the minor league baseball fanatic and he started off with a diatribe about how fans needed to face the fact that BB inherited a talent laden team here and it was talent that won and once that talent was gone he was exposed... I think that one was still fuming about not signing Peppers... I wondered which idiot member of this board he might be... It is really pathetic that this market can't attrack a better quality media talent to cover it's sports teams and educate it's fanbases.
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    and 1 on both points. i think mayock and lombardi are top notch.
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    He's a pom pom waving BB fan. He's not a good source for objective Patriots analysis.
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    Same here!


    1 I think we should evaluate the ILB as a group. If Spikes turns out to be an upgrade from Guyton, our ILB will easily get an HUGE year.

    2 The schedule also make it possible.
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