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  1. Va_Pats_Fan

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    Any speculation how they turned 19 or so million into 3 million?
     
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    they terminated the contract..ripped it up and burned it. Then, they put together a new deal.
     
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    Believe it or not, Moss agreed to tear up his old contract and take a HUGE pay cut. He lost more money than Bruschi and Brady gave up combined.

    This guy wants to win, and win bad.
     
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    Is it only for one year?
     
  5. Va_Pats_Fan

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    I can't swear on it, but isn't that against the CBA?
     
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    I don't think we've seen any actualt confirmation of that, only that his 07 salary is $3m. it's still possible we are on the hook for $8m or whatever in 08, I haven't read anything that addresses 08 or beyond
     
  7. Miguel

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    According to Tomase and ProFootballTalk.com it is.
     
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    No, it is not. Players have been allowed to lower their salaries for the longest time.
     
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    Thanks. One of the downsides to this is all the misinformation floating around.
     
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    I think what has been posted is that lowering the 2 year contract to just a 1 year deal is what is against the CBA.....not taking the pay cut itself.

    Anybody know for sure?
     
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    FWIW

    By having Moss agree to an one-year deal, the Patriots front office left open the possibility of getting a comp pick for him in 2009. If his deal with the Pats have him signed for the 2008 season, the Pats would not get anything for him if they decide to release him before they had to pay the $11.25 million salary.
     
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    Did that person provide a quote from the CBA??

    Because from my reading of the CBA it is possible for a player to agree to shorten his contract.
     
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    True, but usually they get a signing bonus as well for doing so..... though not always.
     
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    Seems like the NFL players association is much weaker than the MLB association! Players aren't allowed to lower the value of their deals in baseball!!
     
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    Ya it's baseball that they can't do that....which is why i think arod never came to boston (which i am thrilled about)!
     
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    In the cases where the player gets a signing bonus he is not usually taking a cut in cash received for the year. See Colvin in 2004 and countless other Patriot deals (Brady, Seymour, Dillon). That is not what is happening here.

    Moss is taking a salary cut AND a cash cut in the same manner Ted Johnson did one of his contract years.
     
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    That's a great point. If he has a phenomenal year, and the Redskins sign him to a huge contract, we can get a fourth or fifth round comp pick in 2009. We could have Moss for a year for nothing, in terms of draft compensation.
     
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    Everyone always blames the NFLPA for being weak, but no other union has created so much benefit for their players so quickly.

    The NFLPA is smart. They do whatever they can to maximize revenues, then they negotiate as high a cut of those revenues as possible.

    If all the NFL players immediately went on permanent strike and formed their own league, 100% owned by the players, they wouldn't earn nearly as much as they do now until long after all the current players were retired.
     

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