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  1. SamBam39

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    Does anyone else find it more than just a coincidence that the normally obnoxious, loud, and never-shutting-up Bill Polian has not said a peep through all this? Not one interview on tv? Not one link to quotes attributed to him? Call me paranoid, but I have a feeling he's been a background force somehow associated with all of this and that's why he's laying low. I don't believe for one second he'd be quiet through this if he wasn't. You know damn well he'd be leading the cries. But nothing. I know a snake is at work.


    One other thought, wonder what Deion Branch thinks of the punishment?
    After all that battling for months, the pats have to return the compensation they got for him from the seahawks (in an indirect way) I mean, we have an extra pick that traces back to him, right? He's probably thinking it's justice or karma and feeling amused. But screw him too, he had zero yards in his opening game and has become not that big of a contributer to the hawks, at least certainly not a first round picks worth of contribution, and I guarentee the hawks regret making that deal already. Just goes to show BB was right that he wasn't worth what he was trying to demand.

    boy, these things seem big at the time, but quickly fade and are comical in retrospect a short time later.
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    I'm pretty sure I read it reported somewhere that the Colts were one of the other teams that were taping other teams. Schefter said it, maybe. I can't remember, actually I think it might have been Peter King. That's why I think Polian's staying quiet.
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    Actually Mort was saying something of how if anyone thinks any other team is video taping signals, they are wrong. Just ask Tony Dungy.
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    I'll be the first one to tell you that Branch did not deserve what he was asking for and the antics of his agent were a disgrace, however to suggest that Branch is getting some sort of pleasure out of all this is over the top. Branch was a popular guy in the lockerroom, so I'm sure we're his second favorite team.
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    Every team around the NFL has been quiet about the issue. I don't think it is just a qa-winki-dink :rolleyes:

    We are the only team who takes the fall, even though it probably has occured whith every team in the NFL at some point.
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    over the top? your funny.
    I know he's feeling a little satisfaction. he was bitter over the battle of his worth, and when the pats got a first rounder for him, they were satisfied.
    now they lose it, it feels like justice. not saying he doesn't still have fondness for the organization, his time here, and many of the players. but there's a little side of him that is glad they didn't get to use that pick.
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    so why aren't they being called out for it?
    called cheaters?
    maybe manning isn't good afterall? blah blah blah?

    we know, manning is a media darling, that's why.
    and 'technically' they haven't been exposed. but it's hypocritical to let one team take all the blame if you know other teams are also guilty of it.
    according to these media nitwits - all of the colts accomplishments need to be brought into question too. yeah right. face it, this is happening because so many people hate bb.
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    right, and the media slams our whole run of success,
    says we have an 'advantage',
    and everyone else is NOT doing it,
    while taking away a first round pick,
    and these other teams 'stay quiet'

    there's more that will come out about what's really going on here.
    it smells funny to me.
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    polian is laughing his @ss off right now.
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    LOL! Clayton said he knows for sure there's at least one other team in the NFL video taping,. and some other reports have said simular things (Schefter said his sources claim ten other teams do this). I don't know about the colts using video cameras but i know they're considered one of the best teams in the league when it comes to stealing defensive signals and they have been for awhile now. I talked about a quote from a Philly article (writer was Les Bowen) talking about the Eagles being somewhat annoyed with the colts, their ability to steal signals, and it coasing them to use other proceedures they don't usually need to use when playing other teams. Another article I either posted on here or in ESPN said they were notorious for their ability to steal defensive signals. I post all this so people will know, but there is one major difference....none of us actually have proof the Colts use any illegal methods when they steal defensive signals, and while they're very good at it they could still very well be just good at it legally.

    Frankly I don't really care. The Pats got their punishment and I'm about ready to move on..... I will say if any other teams get cought I pitty the punishment they receive.
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    That might be true.............. but, lets face it, he was never worth the #1 we got for him either.

    GOD giveth, GODdell takith away :rolleyes:
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    I couldn't have written that any better.

    I guarantee you that it is all water under the bridge for Branch. He won a Super Bowl with these guys and I find it hard to believe that he would be getting some sort of pleasure out of all this nonsense.
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    If I'm Belichick and I know the Colts are doing it, I devise a way to expose it and wait for the worst possible time.
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    I have a feeling more and more stories will pop up in the coming weeks about other teams and the issue of cheating...it aint over yet, I can tell you that.
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    polian is on the rules com..what do you want him to say? he was busy digging the pats grave.
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    If he says something you would say he should shut the hell up. He's quiet so he's behind it?

    The Colts have been mentioned as sign stealers, but never video tapers.
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    I've seen him smerk when asked about BB.
    I know he is.
    people don't forget when they feel they've been wronged.
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    bingo.
    we have bingo.
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    my point exactly.
    sneakily.
    quietly behind the scenes.

    snakes don't make noise.
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    one is technically against the rules.
    both allow you to cheat to the same exact level.
    neither is significantly different than the other as far as cheating goes.
    it's a technicality being trupeted by pats/bb haters
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    Tell you what. Clayton was on with Felger and Borges today. He told them that he had been told of 2 teams who were videotaping signs for use in game. When felger said he still didn't understand how the information could be used in game, the little professor told him that one team was burning the film to cd which was delivered to a pair of coaches at the half to match up with the polaroids of the formations pre snap. He said that the tell on which teams were doing it were dramatic halftime adjustments.

    Sound familiar? The minute he said it, I knew who one of those teams was. First half HOF QB and his pro bowl weapons appear totally out of synch. Second half, defense stiffens, QB and weapons suddenly are immediately in a zone that renders them virtually unstoppable. They almost score at will. OC who has never been tapped as a HC gets weekly kudos for brilliant halftime adjustments. While his QB who calls his own plays at the line, whose radio isn't tied up with OC play call chatter for the first 20 seconds before the snap, the one who uniquely goes to the line early eschewing the huddle in favor of perusing the defense. The one who had "protection problems" early in the 2006 AFCC, but was closing fast late. The one who used to be totally befuddled by BB's defense until he mysteriously figured it all out in 2005...

    Coincidence - I think not.

    Clayton also said he spoke to two of the committee members who were summoned in to discuss penalty with Goodell. One recommended against suspension feeling it was too harsh. ;) The other, whose identity I can also guess, was adamant that because the harsh player conduct penalties the commissioner was leveling were impacting black athletes disproportionately, he needed to come down harder with a lengthy suspension on this HC. It didn't surprise me that he would play that card, since in spite of Goodell's best efforts he is still unable to discipline or control his own athletes, and they play sloppy and undisciplined football as a result even as he fumes on the sidelines, crutches and all.

    Everyone in this league has an agenda or an axe to grind.
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    and that colts game is a possible reason as to what this BB cameraman is likely all about. but of course the colts, polian and dungy are above reproach.
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    Step back a second. If the Colts did it too, why would Polian want a harsh penalty? That doesn't make sense if they could face the same fate.

    I thought it was the heat in the dome that caused the Colts to win, now it's they were better at stealing signs than the Pats? And you guys *****ed about the Colts fans whining after the 2005 game.
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    What do you mean?
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    Polian is up to something because he's quiet? I guess if he was speaking about it he'd be up to something too, right?

    This issue has nothing to do with the Colts.
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    Wait, I thought is was the FLU. Listen dumbass, Manning started kicking your ass six ways to Sunday BEFORE the HALF. Then, they started with the ball the second half. Those two drives, combined with a few miscues from the Pats, and the comeback was on. Now, go try and polish thst tarnished hardware.
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    You make a great point about sign stealing. I wish the nation of idiots thinking that the Patriots are the only ones that do it(not even the onkly ones using video) would get it through their ignorant skulls. Now that the hysteria is starting to die down a bit, maybe some true perspective of the league wide use of sign stealing will emerge. Some people can only see one way though. They are blinded with excuses and hate...............PS.........Can you imagine the drubbing the jets are going to take when they visit Gillette?
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