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    It will do little to persuade minorities to join the republicans.
    Their moron leaders just last month issued a CD about Barack 'the magic negro'.

    The RNC is screwed for an entire generation, based on the f up the past 8 years, they may never recover and may not exist 30 years from now.
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    We've been through this, Negro is not the N word.

    The VAST majority of Republicans aren't racist, that whole thing is stupid.
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    Tell that to Black voters, or any other minority.

    While RNC people can tell themselves that everyone else doesn't have a sense of humor, the rest of the country just shakes their head.

    The RNC is completely clueless. They have also alienated true conservatives like myself, and there are a lot of us, who have basically jumped ship because the Republican party is a scam that does not even believe in the values it traditionally preached
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    I agree they turned into a bunch of sniveling cowardly wimps but I think The Prince Messiah Obama and Sarah Palin will have a lot to do with bringing them back, real quick.
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    Minorities (and non minorities) might THINK Republicans are racist but that doesn't make it true; of course, it's still a problem in terms of getting their vote and hopefully Steele's election can be a small step forward there.
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    That attitude certainly worked with women and Palin:rolleyes:
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    All you can do is show the best you can you aren't sexist, racist, whatever. The rest is up to the voter.
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    Putting up a ditzy joke of a woman like Palin or using an Uncle Tom Black guy, in no way will reach out to those demographics. That the RNC leadership thinks it will, reveals how clueless they are, and how little they think of those voting groups. And telling others to 'get a sense of humor' about things, is another example of just how clueless they are.

    The RNC is not just being completely incompetent in drawing in minorities or women, but have also done a splendid job of alienating its conservative base.

    Any Ron Paul supporter, as I am, basically thinks of the RNC as a total joke at this point.
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    Except that doesn't show either of those things, it just shows that the RNC aren't willing to actually understand race relations and inequality and simply think they can insult people's intelligence by sticking a black guy or a women up there.
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    And just because Democrats think they can insult people's intelligence by programs like affirmative action shouldn't make people think they understand race relations either. We achieve equality by those who may be considered non equal achieving equal results solely on their own merits; not through affirmative action.
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    Hey dumb****, Ron Paul is a republican, in case you didn't notice he voted against the stimulus, unlike every single democrat you love. He is more republican than you think. Abortion. Check. Gay marriage. Check. Tax cuts. Check.

    I have to laugh that a Jew hater is a "champion" for minorities.
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    Just because I think PFEagles is a complete moron doesn't mean I hate Jews, it means that I believe one poster who happens to be Jewish (PFEagles) is retarded. CRAZY zionists like himself would have anyone believe that criticism of Israel means you are an anti-semite. He sounds just like a typical redneck American who says any criticism of America means you hate America and are a commie.


    As for BF, I agree that affirmative action is problematic, but it probably will not go away until humanity removes an inherent desire among people to discriminate based on race. For example, lots of people think it's fine to hire people based on who they personally get along with best, which often allows for racial or religious or any other discrimination.
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    Actually I just forgot that BF is the same person who recently said that Blacks have nothing to blame but themselves since they've had a whopping 40 years since segregation was outlawed!
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    I don't think I quite put it that way but I did say that we are far enough away now from large scale racism that it shouldn't be used as an excuse anymore. It's time to put up and I believe they are fully capable of doing so.
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    Without regard it was demeaning.. I will be convinced with greater minority representation the next RNC, what was there something like 1 or 2% minority representation at that event?.. compare to something like 44% at the DNC... whether they are racist is only part of the issue, as they do not look like they embrace diverse cultures.

    Have Rush, Hannity, Coulter and all the rest of the pillars of the RNC embraced and annointed Steele??? That is the indicator of whether this guy will be successful.. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Michael the new and improved "magic negro", will unite this party and make it a truly diverse party... yea right. One thing I did read is that he is not a big embracer of Palinmania..
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    Blacks are not stupid. They can see through the Republican deception.

    Michael Steele = Clarence Thomas = Condoleeza Rice = Oreo cookies


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    So what's with the complete disrespect for this man? How long will it be before Michael Steele becomes the left's "worst person in the world"? I'm sure the press is hard at work digging up as much dirt as possible even as I type this and I suspect it will be inside a day before it's plastered all over this board(see Oreo cookie above). All this while all benefit of the doubt is given to our new tax evading treasury secretary and not even a peep about Tom Daschle's own tax evasion.........but I digress.

    So let me get this straight

    Dungy.....first black head coach to win a superbowl=good
    Obama....first black president=good
    Rice........first black secretary of state=bad
    Steele.....first black RNC chairman=bad
    Thomas...first conservative black on supreme court=bad

    I get it now
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    Dirt like "Oh my GOD he smoked a cigarette again!" "What about his Aunt Zeituni!" "His cousin in Kenya lives on $12 a year" "Where's His Birth Certificate??!?!?!?!?" "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" "He's really a Muslim..."?

    The only transparency in the GOP is in its strategy, and this selection is one more example of that fact. It's a joke. The RNC gets caught red-handed BEING insensitive, then tried to explain to everybody how they need a sense of humor, then says "look we fixed it!" You really think without the "Barack the Magic Negro" CD, that the selection would have been the same?

    Hey, perhaps so. Perhaps not. I can't tell you what the GOP "woulda coulda shoulda" done, but I can tell you how this looks from the POV of a non-Republican. Cynical and transparent.

    Still -- it is a gesture. It is the GOP trying to display a new direction, and that will be enough for some. I think the move does buy a tiny bit of redemption.

    As tokenism, it will ultimately fail; if it is rather a harbinger of a new direction for the GOP, however, it will be the unexpected beginning of a comeback story.

    We will see.

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    Actually I have not seen a lot of attacks on Steele. I have seen a lot of whining about anticipated attacks on Steele.

    Yes, there will be some analysis of if skin color was a factor in his selection so the person with the job of critic-in-chief is also an African American.

    First off, Rice was not the first black secretary of state. She was not even the first black secretary of state in the Bush administration. Your lack of knowledge of current events is shocking.

    Rice has been criticized for our nation going from having the support of our allies to losing it, because of America's go it alone foreign policy. Not her skin color.

    Thomas is disliked because he is an idiot. I disagree with Scalia almost as often as I disagree with Thomas. But Scalia's opinion actual have a logical basis. The difference between Scalia and Thomas is like the difference between George Will and Rush Limbaugh. I won't agree with any of them. But there is some intelligence behind what they write. Probably the same way a conservative might view David Broder vs Micheal Moore. And his appointment was clearly race based. Bush set out to find a far right conservative black judge and the pool of talent did not exist.

    And I don't like Dungy and his pompous self righteousness. I was rooting for Lovie Smith to be the first black coach to win the SB!
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    Michael Steele is a solid CONSERVATIVE and has been the choice of Rush and Coulter.

    Regardless of race.
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    Dungy (black NFL coaches): Don't really like his holier then now attitude. Do like Lovie Smith. Singletary is good (tho, didn't like his attitude of threatening fans during the strike when he was a player).
    Obama: voted for him, like him.
    Rice: If there was one person who should have been fired for 9/11, it was her. The most powerful person on the 9/11 commission which basically cleared her, was hired by her after the commission's obligation was filled.
    Steele: Have always liked him, never heard him say anything outrageous which is the first turn-off of any politician.
    Thomas: Never liked the guy, just as I've never liked Scalia. It appears that he also lied to congress in his sworn testimony regarding the sexual harassment charges. But hey, he's only a Supreme Court Justice.
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    The "racist scumsucker" Harry Belafonte calls them "House N---ers" when he did you didn't hear a word of disgust from the "beautiful democrats"

    Racism Elected Barack Hussein Obama, everybody in the world knows it except the dingobats (they know it but will never admit it)

    Racism destroyed Pant Suit Hillary the only dingobat to admit it was Geraldine Ferraro, they slammed the sh!t out of her for speaking up, she hasn't mentioned it since.
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    When I started doing firsts I was going to include gender since Palin was brought up earlier as another point of ridicule for the "damned if you do and damned if you don't republican party" so Rice was the first female secretary of state and Palin was the first female republican vice presidential candidate. I should have said first black female secretary of state but had decided to leave gender out of it. Please give me credit for knowing Powell was secretary of state (wow, two black secretaries of state in the racist party). I guess the now respected Obama supporting Powell was just a token appointment for Bush since he obviously had no resume worthy for the job back then. Now of course he'd be a brilliant choice for any Democratic position.

    Sooner or later(probably sooner)there will be all kinds of things to complain about Steele for and that will only "prove" that he was chosen simply because he was black to try and fool everyone since he obviously has no credentials worthy of the position. In this age of affirmative action, I'd think the left would be applauding the appointment:rolleyes:

    Seriously there was at least one person on this board that proudly proclaimed that the main reason he was voting for Obama was because he was black. I agree with you on Dungy, but that's beside the point.

    The Magic Negro episode was embarrassing and should be condemned whether you buy into the comedic angle or not. It was just plain dumb and the RNC has said as much but for some of you the RNC has never done anything any good it never will. The ridicule of the Steele appointment says it all.
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    Not correct. That would be Madeleine Albright.

    As for Powell. I supported his nomination. In 2001 I stated there are only two people in the Bush administration I really liked Rice and Powell. (and it had nothing to do with race, they are the only two I thought had a brain)

    My opinion of both have changed Powell primarily because of him lacking the balls to standup the the president on WMD. Rice because of her obstructionistic behavior with the 911 commission.
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    Well at least you admit your cynicism and allow for the possibility that the RNC has a new direction. That's a little refreshing. FYI I have never complained about birth certificates, relatives or smoking and personally I hope Obama is so successful that I can't wait to vote for him again. As a to the right of center individual I do route for the republican party to get it's act together to keep a check and balance alive in Washington....not gridlock or partisan lockdown mind you that you just saw in the House. Actually Obama was critical of that and without naming names spanked Pelosi a bit for her attitude. Refreshing as well.
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    I meant black female secretary of state, but I think you knew that since later in the same paragraph I pointed that out.............Africa is a county too ;-)
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    Winner winner chicken dinner.

    The left is supportive of women and minorities. Women and minorities that follow the same ideology that they do.
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