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    According to his Twitter they were upset when Cleveland took him, but says Spikes is not a bad consolation prize.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    In the 2nd, that's hard to believe. I thought it was a bit of a reach.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    I liked Hardesty too. But I prefer Spikes.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Thanks Cleveland!!!
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    i for some reason thought that BB would draft a young RB too....

    guess it just didnt pan out
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    I'm not bothered by the fact that I didn't draft a RB. My guy was McCluster, but he went much too early. I like the pass catchers we got for Brady. As long as the OL is healthy the running game will be fine.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Well if that's true it's a blessing in disguise... getting LB help is more important IMO than RB
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    I think people overeact to these 'we wanted' reports.
    I am sure we liked the player. I imagine we were 'upset' when he was taken.
    But he was AMONG A GROUP of players we liked, one of whom we chose.
    BB has shown over the years that he targets a group of guys he likes in a spot, then moves around so he at least gets one of the group.
    All this means is that Hardesty was among the group. IMO>
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    The dude was injory prone, and a second is WAY too high IMO. I'd have drafted him in the late 3rd or 4th if he were available. But the Spikes pick is awesome. 40 yard time be damned, he's a leader and he's gonna hurt people.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Even assuming that they wanted Hardesty and that they were upset that Cleveland took him, I'm not sure that means they would have selected him instead of Spikes. Maybe they had him projected in the 3rd round, maybe Taylor Price is the consolation prize, maybe next year's 2nd rounder is... who knows.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Michael Holley, on the mid day WEEI show, said this was true according to HIS inside source...FWIW
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    If this is true, it's a happy accident. I don't think Hardesty is anything special. A pretty basic, plodding RB. The kind of guy who would be great in the fourth round, but just doesn't do anything overly well to validate a second round pick.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Shows that BB knows he needs a RB.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    I liked Hardesty as well...












    ...in the 3rd round. I would much rather have a thumper ILB to line up next to Mayo though. Next year's RB class should be stronger.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    You're bothered by the fact that they didn't take a "RB" who is going to play WR for the Chiefs?
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    how so? it's not like he reached for the next best RB or even took one with the remaining picks.

    The running game was more than sufficient last season. The philospophy of the offense is pass 1st as it should be with Tom Brady and Randy Moss.
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    Don't forget folks that we traded a 3rd for a 2nd next year.

    The Patriots could have had both Hardesty and Spikes had the Browns not taken him.

    The only question is, is Hardesty better than the player they will get at the Carolina slot in the 2nd round next year?
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    Hardesty went in the 2nd, a round earlier than our traded 3rd.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    This is encouraging news. If BB was willing to use a 2nd round pick on a RB, it shows he doesn't think the core is "fine", like many hear believe.
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    Give me the tough-as-nails LB every time.
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    And the next RB didn't go until the 4th. If Cleveland didn't select him with their late 2nd, he'd probably be available in the 3rd. The Patriots may have moved up to get him if that were the case and they felt he would go before their turn in the 3rd.
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    They had a private work-out with Hardesty, so it doesn't surprise me they wanted him. However, if they truly had to have him they would've grabbed him at 58, and not have traded down with Houston. Unless, as stated earlier in the thread that he was a player targeted for round 3. I'm not at all disappointed with how things turned out. Hardesty's injury history is a big concern. Furthermore, he was not particularly productive until his final season...

    However, it is good to see that BB isn't necessarily satisfied with the RB situation. I can definitely see them possibly making a move for a veteran down the line...
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    I've always liked and respected Michael Smith. Since he went to the 4-letter network I tend to take his "reports" with a little salt and wonder if he's as credible an insider as he used to be? On that note, I wouldn't doubt if the Jags heard that the Pats wanted Alualu so they took him with the 10th pick:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    I call shenanigans on this one. I find it hard to believe they would've traded out of 58 with a team desperate for a RB (HOU) and with two more teams they had to believe could go RB picking right behind them (CLE & SEA). If they really wanted Hardesty, they would've just stayed at 58, no?
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    Where exactly was he picked and where was he projected?

    Seems he provided "value" in the 3rd round. I'd be upset if someone took my value in the 2nd round.

    BB said we would have selected McCourty if they HAD to draft at 22. So trading back and getting added ammo is great- IF YOU CAN GET YOUR GUY.

    No doubt Jax would have loved to trade back to get their pick. However, if nobody wants to trade......
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    I am psched over our draft. One of the big reasons being Spikes. Spikes was projected in all early drafts going in the top 15. His 40 time scared people, but watching tape on him the hell with 40 times in regard to ILB. I'll take him over the RB anyday. You can't get them all
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Huh? He used a first on a CB, does that mean that our CBs weren't fine? He used a 1st on a RB when we had Corey Dillon- does that mean that Dillon wasn't fine? He used a 2nd on a NT last year, does that mean that Wilfork wasn't fine? He was using 2nds on defensive linemen like Marquise Hill back when we had an absolute dream team put together on the DL.

    Bottom line, Belichick picks for talent and likes a stable of RBs. If you think the fact that he liked Hardesty is an indictment of our RBs, then I dunno what to tell you, but I think you're reading way too much into it.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    Dead right! I read no criticism of Bodden and Butler into the McCourty pick.

    In his ideal world, BB would just draft BPA every time. He said once that the team has needs every year at every position. What that means (of course) is that you hope that the needs aren't so much greater at one position that they can't be ignored. Apart from anything else, his as-little-as-possible for needs strategy keeps him inscrutable. You know he loves it when the GM at the other end of the line says "It's Belichick on the phone and he wants to trade. I haven't the slightest go**am idea who's he's after, though."
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    i was waiting to see if he'd fall to the patriots 3rd round pick. oh well.
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    Re: Michael Smith:pats Wanted Hardesty

    not really. he drafted a QB in the third round and he thinks Brady if fine. He either had the guy highly rated OR he want to get him late and was upset that the Browns reached for him.

    Our RB core is fine. It was a very highly ranked unit last year in the NFL. People just want flash and sizzle instead of blue-collar production.
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