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    SAVAGE: And yet here in America, I've had some people come to my aid. They see the bigger picture. They're not like [Bill] O'Reilly; they're not like Limbaugh, who's the biggest disappointment of all. Limbaugh has turned out to be the biggest phony of all of them, all of them. Amongst all of them, he is the biggest fraud. Rush Limbaugh is a fraud. When he was accused of the drug usage, I supported him. But that man is a one-way street. It's all about him. He's in it for nobody but himself.



    Oh my!.......


    rule 1 of war, divide and conquer. Whats it called when an enemy does that to itself?
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    A snake eating it's own tail?
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    In this case, ego trumps ideology. These guys will gladly rip themselves to shreds if they think it can raise their own profile. I think Limbaugh also knows that his own personal success is probably better if the Dems stay in power longer, hence the will to keep the republicans from expanding their base and uniting under an electable banner.
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    Anyone who thinks Rush is not in it for himself simply has not been paying attention. These new Rush revelations are funny ... Rush has not changed. He started out as an entertainer and he remains an entertainer.
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    when people use this word "entertainer" what is it supposed to mean? That we shouldn't take anything he says seriously? He sounds serious when he says it...If he's not it's truly tragic that people would form their opinions around entertainment.
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    He takes small grains of opinionated truth ... that being how some in the middle to the right would perceive truth and/or fact. Then he builds a scenario around it. He finds villains and usually a hero or 2. Not too many heros as the enetertainment works best with a few vs the many.

    He is serious about what he says ... but he embellishes that seriousness into entertainment. He has used the "I will educate you" hand since he began. He is not a republican ... he is an old fashioned conservative, definitely not a bible thumper o even a vigorous right to lifer. He bases most of what he says on a strict interpretation of our Constitution.

    I used to listen to him a lot before we had 790 The Score here in RI. Then we got WEEI in FM and I almost never listen to him. Once in a while I tune in ... when I know he is all flustered ... nothing has changed.
    He's not the bad guy he's made out to be and he does mean well. he just has a huge problem adapting the Constitution to today's country and world and he fuels this fustration with his gift of entertainment ... the heros and villains routine. It's real easy to piss off liberals by laughing at them and conservatives by ramming leftist ideas down their throat ... he's made millions doing it. Think of the right as 1700's Americans and the left as the British who are coming and it all makes sense. Not a comparison people ... just an example of the rage he fuels.
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    This entertainer is listened to upwards of 20 millions of people daily.. most of them really believe he is a politician with a viable message. He does a very good job "entertaining" folks... many folks never question the veracity of what he says.
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    Yes ... but that's also true of FOX, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post etc... Many here resource multiple media sites, often times for the same story. I really don't believe most of America does that or cares to do that. I think many people would rather hear what they want to hear ... thus they listen to Rush, Savage, Olberman and all the rest.
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    Michael Savage is a wiener. :D
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    Who's Michael Savage?????



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    This is right up there among your classic exposures.

    Almost as telling as "what was Operation Northwoods?"

    Meanwhile, you exhibit many to most of Savage/Weiner's rhetoric and debate tactics.
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    So, you don't want to tell me?? OK. ;)


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    Actually, and in all seriousness, Savage does have a point: Rush is mostly about himself. Unfortunately. Rush has some good insights but he has made his living by making himself into an infallible demi-god. And in doing his schtick he makes *everything* personal, and yet he does not feed with his fellow ("conservative") commentators very well. Almost never does interviews, and he only does those with people he seems to worship. He's got his limitations. Which is why I don't read or listen to him much any more; rarely go to his site. In his early years he was a breath of fresh air in the midst of chaos and confusion on the airwaves, but he is a bit long in the tooth as far as commentating goes; has not grown with the world, or in his personal life. Sad.


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    Loosely translated this means that Rush has committed transgretions such as addictions, multiple marriages, kitten worship and got busted with Viagra in his suitcase.. he is not living the Uni Principles.. ergo bad.
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    No, this has little to do with his moral weaknesses -- they are merely symptomatic of his deeper self-esteem issues: he thinks his value is only when he is "right" (which is then proven out when he gets huge salary pay-outs). Rush is trapped by the ethos of the 20th century era of the materialistic viewpoint. Short-term thinking based on how many steaks are in the freezer. Forgets the long-term ... the eternal. Big mistake.


    Carry on.

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    It turned the Rap industry into the huge money maker it is today... Biggie v Tupac solidified the cause into 2 camps, but it did invigorate fans into avid fans...

    A inner battle could solidify and re-engage the base in order to choose a side and get excited about the GOP even if it's against itself.

    Based on what I see, Savage is not even close to the realm of Limbaugh so he's just going to get sunk in this, probably end up loosing his show.

    The rule about Conservative talk Radio:
    Conservative Listeners who listen to (your) show, also listen to Rush Limbaugh. Listeners to Rush Limbaugh do not necessarily listen to (yours).
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    Good assessment. Rush is an entertainer. If we forget that we can get all bent out of shape. Rush is a radio personality, nothing more, nothing less. Now, the fact that he happens to focus on political issues is interesting and exciting for this era we live in, but he's still an entertainer. (Keep repeating that and you'll be all right.) And on that scale, Michael Savage is a pale imitation of Rush Limbaugh. Far, far down the scale. Very different personality. And, once again, "entertainment" is all about personality.

    Similar thing happened some years ago when Don Imus came out in support of Mr. Lewd-n-Crude Howard Stern, who was being whacked by the network radio (CBS/Infinity, I believe). But there the roles were reversed: Stern was the up-and-coming "star" while Imus was the older curmudgeonly goat.


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    IN late breaking news.. Rush has resigned as the head of the Republican Party and has appointed Colin Powell.. all of this makes great folly as Powell has fired back, all the infighting amongst these dudes is funny..

    Maybe they should have a cage match, between him and Powell.. great theater all of it.. now it is being reported that Ed Schultz wants to debate him.. would like to see Rush in an unscripted setting with no screeners and no ability to hang up..

    Limbaugh appoints Colin Powell head of GOP | csmonitor.com

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    .... and he gets his listeners scratching their heads (again) so he gets them to tune in tomorrow to hear what in hell he's talking about. It's all theater. He did the same thing years ago... said he was going to vote for Clinton (Bill) over Bush or Dole. ...... It's all about entertainment .... getting the numbers so he can get a big salary. Nothing more.


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    Welp, here I was thinking it was the extreme right against the moderates, but the extreme right's degenerated into cannibalism.

    Gingritch is everywhere lately if you guys haven't noticed. He can smell a vacuum like a shark smells blood. And the rest of the clowns in the GOP look like such uberclowns, I think Newt's having a very easy time looking good by comparison.

    I give it one week before the echo chamber proclaims him their savior.

    PFnV
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    That would be even greater comedy, as would love to hear him on the national stage explaining how he as the Representative of the Party of Family Values can justify all those BJ's he used to get from the interns in the parking lot.. oops I forgot he is a Catholic now.. all is forgiven. Mea Culpa.. mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

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