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  1. Rob0729

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    The National Football Post | Sunday At The Post

    Based on this, sounds like this trade will not happen. Burgess might force the issue though especially if feels that the Raiders are just jerking him around and going through the motions to look like they are trading him with no intention to do so.
     
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    If the Raiders are asking for two players that are expected to make our 53-man roster, it seems clear to me they aren't realistically seeking to trade Burgess. They'd be lucky to get one 2nd round pick, and I think a 3rd + a 5th or 6th is a lot more likely.
     
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    Beat me to it. I was just about to post that myself. I agree that Burgess will not be coming here. If that is the Raiders starting point, I cant see them coming down enough to please the Pats. I wouldnt give up a 2nd rounder alone for Burgess, and they want 2 potential starters who are sign up, or will be, long term fopr cheap money. A third is the highest I would go for him. I wonder if the high price the Raiders are asking for Burgess is a result from the history between the Pats and Raiders. I remember reading a story where Al Davis told Lamont Jordan he did not want him signing with the Pats when he was released. I bet the price would be less for another team.
     
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    i say lets give woods and crable a shot im not up for giving a 2nd or 3rd for a 1 year rent a player we already have enough potential free agents on the roster next year
     
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    If that is indeed true a 2nd AND O'Connell and Vollmer.. they can wait and see Burgess rot...they are NOT serious at all..Al Davis demandinig that.. That creep can go down the tubes and see his franchise be worse than the Lions.. AT this point..I'd give up a 5th ONLY..F..Davis and the Raiders!!
     
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    I totally agree. That's a ridiculous trade. I wouldn't give up either O'Connell or Vollmer, much less both of them, at this juncture.
     
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    has anyone actually seen him play lately (since SB39)? cant remember the last raiders game i caught
     
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    A 2, Vollmer, and O'Connell?

    Hell no. . . . although I wonder what JaMarcus Russell will think when he hears that Davis was trying to snag the Pats' backup QB. . . . :D

    On the flip side, that'd be a heck of a way to derail two promising careers before they get started. :(
     
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    Those are my exact thoughts! Not to forget the also brought in Jeff Garcia in the off season.
     
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    ding ding ding ding ding! Absolutely an ABOMINATION of a trade. If true, Oakland can F off for the next 10 years. I'm sorry we RIPPED YOU OFF for Moss and you're all bitter now, despite the mitigating Doug Gabriel deal, but DON'T WASTE MY TIME, you crazy old coot.
     
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    Come to think of it, though, which rookie(s) would the Raiders have cut to get Vollmer's salary in under their rookie cap?
     
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    Wow, they're asking for a lot. I guess Al Davis has learned his lesson afterall.;)
     
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    It was "just" Vollmer and O'Connell. The "second round pick" was describing Vollmer.

    I wouldn't do it for either V or C though.
     
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    I can't help but wonder if the Raiders may have taken Vollmer 13 picks after we did which was just before the pick we traded to Jacksonville which was our next pick after the Vollmer pick.
     
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    davis wants vollmer??

    son....of....a....*****!

    I just lost a lot of faith in that pick.
     
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    D'oh! Reading comprehension FAIL. :ugh: :(

    But +1 on not trading Seabass or the O'C. :)
     
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    I would appear so in light of this ridiculous proposal. I don't know if that makes me feel good or bad about Vollmer.lol Seriously, the prevailing thought is now going to be that the Raiders were looking at Vollmer closely. I can't imagine why else they would ask for him in a possible trade. It doesn't matter, though, as the Patriots have declined (probably emphatically) such an absurd proposal. I wouldn't be at all mad to discover that the Patriots walked away from the talks, erasing Davis' phone number from their phones in the process.
     
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    Why not Peppers? Can we trade for Peppers? :ugh: :D
     
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    Looks like the deal is dead...Just as the Peppers one is...What is good in a sense is that Burgess has wanted out and he has seen how that fact has affected Pwner Davis...he wants MORE to teh point of ridiculousness...I think Burgess will NOT at all be happy by that and..Davis is stuck with a player who wants out..MORE turmoil for that franchise...running in cement..My guess is that IF/when Davis REALLY wants to trade Burgess...the Pats will play HARDER ball...and what they may have wished to give in a trade will be reduced even more.. Davis may have his way and feel like he's THE MAN...but he's in diapers and it will stink more.
     
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