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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.The story hasn't come out yet. But, if the story is that BB was going to fire Pees after giving him that defense and getting rid of Seymour just before the season started, I can't imagine Pees would feel bad about getting the chance to stick it to the Patriots twice a year.
So you really think Parcells would consider hiring someone that sucks.
He didn't do a good job between 05 and 07 season.
If he did, you would have your case for Pees this season or last year.
People don't jump up to conclusion about him bases on 2 lousy seasons.
I threw the Seymour trade in there because it was something that affected the defense this season.
As I said, you had no point.
The story hasn't come out yet. But, if the story is that BB was going to fire Pees after giving him that defense and getting rid of Seymour just before the season started, I can't imagine Pees would feel bad about getting the chance to stick it to the Patriots twice a year.
Do we really want teams in our division to know that much about us?
:sigh: You threw it in there as a point discussing Pees frame of mind. It was meaningless and pointless to throw it in there. You were not discussing the factors that hurt the defense. But once again you fail to recognize your fault.
Seymour trade has absolutely 100% NOTHING to do with whether or not Pees would "feel bad" about getting the chance to "stick it" to the Patriots twice a year. You threw it in there because YOU are bitter about the trade.
after giving him that defense and getting rid of Seymour just before the season started
He was given a sub par defense and had its best player taken from it. He still gets that team to a top 5 ranking in scoring. IF (notice the word) he was basically getting fired, he'd have no problem trying to stick it to the team that treated him that way.
My pointing that out isn't because I'm bitter about anything. It's because that's what happened this season. Perhaps if you pulled your head of of Moss' rectum long enough to actually pay attention to people's posts instead of just posting ridiculous homer crap as a knee jerk reaction to whatever might be perceived as even slightly less than mindless adoration, you'd see that I'm capable of doing something you don't seem to be able to do: I can separate one issue from another, and I don't need to be all homer or all anti-homer.
You have to be kidding me. People have been complaining about Pees since midway through his 1st year. Please. Do you not remember Belichick having to go to the sidelines to school the defense while Pees stood silently by during the Super Bowl? Meanwhile a crucial decision needed to be made on O. Pees never had Belichick's total respect.
He wasn't the DC in 05 either. You need to stop babbling about stuff you don't have a clue about. You're worse than NEM. The 05 defense finished as one of the poorest in BB's tenure. Mangini was it's coordinator. The next two seasons the defense finished in the top 5 or 6 in the league. He wasn't the OL coach in that superbowl. That guy is teflon...
A lousy season here has become any season you don't win it all. That doesn't mean we don't have good coordinators, it means we have irrational fans.
Wow forget it, the simple fact I pointed to was that Pees would be SMART ENOUGH to understand the business and value aspect of the NFL, and the Seymour trade is not the team "treating him that way". You can try to force it into whatever you want, but fact is you have been bitter about the Seymour trade from the beginning. You aren't rational in this discussion, now move on.
Whatever you say Deus, you have proven time and time again to be irrational and stubborn.
Seymour is an issue only to you. I am confident the Seymour trade is not even close to Pees mind at all.
And don't let any of the FACTS get in the way of your blind hate towards Moss, just accuse me of being up his ass. You are a coward.
"homer" there's that word again, the pointless keyword you continue to throw around to make yourself feel better.
People here complain about all the coordinators. They complained bitterly about Charlie, and McKid was worthless in his tenure here...
Belichick has always coached or schooled his denfeses through breakdowns and meltdowns. I guess you missed all those seasons that happened before 2007... What crucial decision needed to be made on offense during that superbowl...whether to attempt one with zero blocking? Honestly, you people act like Pees was sent here by Al Quaeda to steel Bill's genius. He was brought here by Bill because he learned this defense under Nick Saban and Bill knew Mangini was ambitious and impatient. He remained here for six seasons and did really well dealing with an aging and oft injured defense. He's been a coach for 37 years. He wasn't the guy who blew his assignment or missed his tackle or failed to make a game changing play. He also didn't invent prevent defense and cushions. Bill employed the prevent even in the Superbowl years and the cushions arrived in 05 when Law left and the Polian rule went into effect. Mangini got blamed for that...
BB has given him noting to work with over the last few years and he still had the D ranked in the top 10. in yerds allowed every year but this year and he still had the D in the top 5. in points allowed this year.
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I really hope the rumor is true, I've been complaining about Pees since I joined this board. We need to catch up to the Jets in defensive coaching.
The Jets have good talent to go along with the good coaching.