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  1. Brady'sButtBoy

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    Do these teams ever learn? $30M guaranteed for Mike Wallace - are you kidding? $7M/yr for Ellerbe? An undrafted LB with one, yes, ONE meaningful season. On top of this they whack one of their most dependable, good solider types in Carlos Dansby to make room for Ellerbe. Incredible.

    I hope they continue to pour it on, they already have lost control why stop now!
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    they are panicking with all the $$ they have. Happens to poorly run organizations
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    I can't say I disagree with your opinion but I'm taking a wait and see approach with them. They should be better next year but that's dependent on Tannehill getting better, of course.
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    philip wheeler too.
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    Wallace means nothing if the Dolphins plan on Jonathan "bullrushed by a CB" Martin protecting Tannehill's blind side. There will never be any time for Wallace to get open.

    Also, adding two 6'1" LBs is not how you cover Gronk.
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    Normally I agree, like with the frustrating Marshall. Well that was a trade, but same idea.

    But they still have a good amount of cap room, and 9 draft picks with 5 in the first 3 rounds. Which is why the draft is much more important than any of this. As long as they keep those picks, I don't mind.

    It really all depends on Tannehill anyway. Adding Wallace to Hartline and Bess will be worth it if he develops into what they expect. If Tannehill doesn't, then it won't help us all that much. But they needed to make changes after 7-9, 7-9, 6-10, 7-9. It's a wait and see situation...much of it depending on Tannehill, Coaching and Great Draft positioning which they have to use well. I expect heavy drafting in the Secondary, which needs help.

    And on the plus side if it ends up a failure that sends Ireland away. Win-Win.
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    Drew Bledsoe Jr. is still their Quarterback.
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    surprised they didn't sign chung for 4 year 36 mill
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    I think this might have a lot to do with the Dolphins trying to get public money for the stadium overhaul. Jeffrey Ross might think that if they have a bunch of shiny new pieces and give the fans hope this team might be playoff or Super Bowl bound, they might be more willing to vote for new taxes to pay for the stadium.
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    until fans see their final record next season and aren't in the playoffs
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    It isn't about how good they are and how far they go, but how the fans perceive how good they are or how far they go. The votes on public funding will likely be done before the playoffs come around.
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    But do the fans really like these moves? If we signed those players for those contracts we would be here bashing the pat becasue those contracts are stupid for those players
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    I'm generally happy to tow the line of prudence. I look at the way I spend my income and then translate it to the manner in which the Patriots conduct their business. There may be an impulse buy here or there but for the most part, you categorise items, allocate a budget and then move money around according to availability and price. In terms of total team economics, I can appreciate the Patriots cap management not only for today, but also for tomorrow.

    The contracts most Free Agents receive simply aren't worth the production.
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    First, we are talking about Stephen Ross. He is the same guy who thought giving people like J.Lo minority ownership in the team would increase fan interest in the team. He isn't the sharpest bulb in the tree.

    Second, Pats fans and Dolphins fans are very different. Miami is the place of the Dream Team in basketball. They like shiny toys. And Pats fans have seen there team win Super Bowls with a bunch of unheralded over achievers. I think we approach free agency different than fans of other teams. Most teams' fans are excited when their team takes the Daniel Snyder approach because their team is different and they overspent for the right player unlike other teams that overspent for the wrong players.

    Also, I think you would be surprised how many Pats fans would be doing cartwheels tonight if they made the moves the Dolphins made today.
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    I say we still beat em even with Ebert, Slater, and Kamar Aiken at WR.
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    Good ... the Jets trolls will be on the Miami boards for a while.
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    there should be a question mark after the thread title. they have lost there starting rb and te.
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    At least they did something instead of leading to sign a washed up kick returner lmao, this team has a ton of flaws that Brady hides. Going to go for the bargain bin as always tomorrow and beyond.
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    You realise the team has the options of Free Agency, the Draft, UDFA and trades to improve the team right? There's no need to stand on a ledge less than a day into one of those options.
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    Not on the ledge I know that they do this every year and have the same holes at the end of the day (Pass rush, cb, wr)
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    You do realize teams have a minimum they have to spend
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    Which of those have been filled by teams with players of considerably quality where their production has met the contracts they received?
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    With the money they have I don't think Wallace is a bad signing. They really didn't have any kind of threats on offense.
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    considering how well they have done the last ten years maybe they are on to something.
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    If you follow baseball you know the Florida/Miami Marlins spent big and recklessly and it always ends the same way fire sale.. The Dolphins will be no different.
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    Guess you've forgotten the last time that the Pats threw out big money for a free agent and how that turned out.. you know. Adalius Thomas.

    When have we ever heard who the Pats were signing before the Pats actually signed them?? Seriously.
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    I think that we heard of Lloyd, Colvin and Bodden and many others.

    Besides, the issue with Thomas was that he was awful AFTER his injury. We should never pay big bucks for a player who will be injured.

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    Actually, they don't. The Cap Floor is not a hard floor like the Salary Cap is a hard ceiling.

    If you look up Article 12, Section 9 of the CBA (page 84) you will see that it is actually an equation that works out to be 89% of the Average of the salary cap over a 4 year span. And, any difference is only paid out after that 4 year span is up.

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    We didn't hear of Colvin prior to his being signed. Same with Rodney Harrison.

    Lloyd was a different animal all together because of the McDaniels factor. And Lloyd wasn't signed immediately nor was he signed for big money. Neither was Bodden for that matter. Bodden's extension was where Bodden got big money.

    Come on, MG. It was clearly implied that we were talking about BIG MONEY free agents.
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    Back to the topic at hand - Ellerbee and Wheeler are merely good LB's, there's nothing great on record from them. And the truth is we don't really know about Ellerbee yet, take him off that Ravens strike machine and who knows what he'll look like? $12M+/yr for two good/unknown quantities - that's straight out stupid.

    $30M solid for Mike Wallace borders on lunacy also. He's an excellent WR, a difference maker, the kind of guy we need on the Pats. But he doesn't strike me as a dominating player, he's more of side show type, incredible as that show may be. And what will Tannehill say in two years when he's up for the $$ - um, Wallace got $30M, that means I get $40M! And if he hasn't been good enough to ask for that kind of dough then the whole Wallace thing is dud anyway.
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