Welcome to PatsFans.com

Miami Cheated

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Keegs, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. Keegs

    Keegs Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2006
    Messages:
    4,933
    Likes Received:
    8
    Ratings:
    +8 / 0 / -0

    I just heard on NFL Live about how the Dolphins bought sound clips off someone and they used these, along with game film to figure out Brady's signals for pass protection.

    John Clayton just confirmed it (an excellent source of info.) :rolleyes:

    Sorry if this has already been posted , but i didn't see anything about it

    This is bull****.
    That is cheating.

    No wonder they demolished our line and beat up on Brady.

    This is one game that i'm glad i missed.
  2. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    5,606
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -0

    I don't know how that is cheating? We can hear Brady yelling out the calls at the LOS on TV. They could TIVO it and get the same result. I do suggest they rename their protections this week.
  3. MrTibbs

    MrTibbs Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    1,484
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Sure never happened when Charlie was the OC. Patriots did the same thing to Manning for a long time.
  4. PatsDeb

    PatsDeb PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2005
    Messages:
    5,000
    Likes Received:
    28
    Ratings:
    +40 / 0 / -1

    I can't really say this is cheating either. Perhaps what needs to be done is no microphones near enough to pick up the sounds of the QB's voice. If it is being reported, then Miami looks like it got a cheap win.
  5. Krugman

    Krugman Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    1,044
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    I dont see how you can blame the Dolphins for that,thats the Pats fault for making the o-line adjustments so obvious! I'm suprised they were the first to exploit it ,if its that bad.(Hard to argue against that after Sunday).
  6. Welker83

    Welker83 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Actually..the Patriots started it:
    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphi...nsgamer_1211.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46
  7. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    5,606
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -0

    Last edited: Dec 12, 2006
  8. pats1

    pats1 Moderator PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 28, 2005
    Messages:
    13,261
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

  9. Welker83

    Welker83 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Word is that they used a video with sound to "steal" Zach Thomas's blitz calls...
  10. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2005
    Messages:
    5,606
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -0


    Well I guess we now know why BB doesn't let his players get "mic'ed up" very often, if ever. Thanks.
  11. sarge

    sarge Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2004
    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    If that is what they did, sounds like good game planning to me!
  12. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    15,228
    Likes Received:
    74
    Ratings:
    +126 / 2 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    CHEATING BASTARDS!!

    I think that I said tht in one of the two threads about this that was posted yesterday.
  13. chris_in_sunnyvale

    chris_in_sunnyvale Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2005
    Messages:
    2,091
    Likes Received:
    8
    Ratings:
    +8 / 0 / -0

    I think it was in 2001 when the Raiders went into Indy and deciphered Manning's audibles *during the game*. MLB Greg Biekert was the culprit. After halftime, the Raiders defense completely shut down the Colts and the Raiders won going away.

    In the Raiders/Tampa Super Bowl, Raiders coach Callahan kept the same audibles that Gruden has used the year prior. Gruden's Tampa defense knew exactly what Rich Gannon was doing as the Raiders stunk up the joint.

    It was our own Willie McGinest who recognized Peyton's hand-waving meant Edge was getting the ball on 4th down in "The Stop" in that critical game in 2003.

    You want to call this cheating? Fine, whatever. It's not new and it's going to continue. It won't be long before someone starts monitoring the QB helmet radio communication and relays the info to the D. The key is to always be ahead of the game. Fake 'em out. Heck, Peyton even did this in the 2004 opener by doing the same hand-wave on 3rd and short, causing McGinest to chase Edge into the line as Manning faked the handoff and ran the naked bootleg for 20 yards right where McGinest vacated. Imagine what the Pats could have done if they suspected Miami stole their audibles? They could have taken them for a ride. I consider what Miami did (and making it public) a favor to the Pats because from now on the Pats won't be so stupid to continue with the same audible system, waiting to be taken advantage of by a playoff opponent.

    Regards,
    Chris
  14. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,426
    Likes Received:
    149
    Ratings:
    +306 / 9 / -9

    #24 Jersey

    Evidently it is considered "cheating" if you purchase the audio, whatever that means. Versus figuring it out from what you can see on TV. That's what Salisbury said and that ex DB who's on ESPNews. They would know better than me I guess.
  15. lobster

    lobster Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2004
    Messages:
    481
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    The Commissioner has the authority under the "Unfair Acts" section to investigate anything "outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football". He can penalize a team or even reverse the win.
  16. Welker83

    Welker83 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2006
    Messages:
    439
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0



    I remember a tampa game this year where rich gannon did the broadcast..he was calling plays before they were happening because gruden was still using some audibles from before...
  17. PatsDeb

    PatsDeb PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2005
    Messages:
    5,000
    Likes Received:
    28
    Ratings:
    +40 / 0 / -1

    Let's lobby for this! Think it will work?! ;)
  18. Aqua4Ever04

    Aqua4Ever04 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,934
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Don't complain because our coach is smart and out prepared Belichick. You got beat fair and square. Just accept that ass whooping you took and move on.
  19. edgecy

    edgecy Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2005
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Yeah.. I kinda agree with Aqua... this is just a bunch of sour grapes..
  20. Aqua4Ever04

    Aqua4Ever04 Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,934
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Yeah, you know damn right that if Belichick had the oppertunity to do this, he would be all over it. What coach isn't looking to get an edge? Every single coach in football would do this if he could. Just Saban doing his job.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>