Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by shmessy, Oct 5, 2012.
Belichick tells you where to stick it:
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On a different note, what's with all the lockers still in the middle of the room??? Belichick sure looked awkward talking and having to walk back and forth from one side to the other...
That was on the road in Buffalo. It's an old stadium and their tiny lockerrooms are ancient.
Devin's got my support. I think other than a few blips (some big ones) here and there, I think he is having a very good season.
DOH.. Not sure where my head was at on that.. Reminding me it was in Buffalo makes perfect sense now. Any little thing to disrupt the opponent..
By what metric? Lol, he has been lucky not to have been worked like a cheap home all season long...a few good pd's here and there, but how many times had he been beat? Better yet, how many times had the receiver clearly beaten him?
A qualified qb torched him for three+ touchdowns instead of under throwing open receivers twice (both pics, go watch). I feel like he is a bomb that can go off at any time, good or bad.
pretty much confirms his struggles have been mostly confidence based, not necessarily skill based.
hearing that, and getting the picks, hopefully will get him back to rookie form (or better)
The coach/GM supports his player when there's a camera on?
I'm honestly sort of surprised that BB would even acknowledge what the fans/media might think of a player.
Yeah, cause Bill Belichick is one to put on airs for the camera/microphone lol
Clueless. Unfortunately because of forum rules I have to respond with more than just that word.
'Yeh well, you know that's like, uhhhh, you're opinion, man.'
Tennessee, Cardinals and, bar that final drive, Baltimore.
Also, you're clueless on that second pick. That takes a tremendous amount of ball skills to beat the receiver to undercutting that under thrown route.
Go watch every game again. Jesus.
Who? Flacco? the same guy who McCourty nearly picked twice that very same game?
As the OP stated all you need to do to see how one of the best coaches ever to play rates the guy is watch the video.
No way am I giving up on McCourty.
Yep. Part of Belichick's Hall of Fame intro will be: "He was famous for pumping up a disappointing player's tires, unprompted, for the cameras. That's just classic Bill."
The fact remains that BB has never bad mouthed one of his own players to the media.
Not even Ocho Stinko.
Leave Devin alone!
Great video on that show; I'll have to check it out more often. Loved seeing the field-level action, rapport among the players, Scar's sideline demeanor, etc. And even though it was a brief post-game exchange, Brady seems to be a fan of Bolden. (Yeah, I know .. 137 yards rushing will do that, but still.)
My take on the McCourty bit: No doubt BB was fully aware of the cameras when he said that and I'm reasonably confident he was in on the decision to leave it in the show. And no, he never talks down a player in public (unlike "player's coach" Rex Ryan). That said -- I don't think he pumps up a player like that, in front of the team, gratuitously.
I agreed that bit seemed odd. But "us against the world" has worked for BB before.
True, except that's not relevant here. It's not like he's staying silent. He went out of his way to back one of his players who he feels is being unfairly criticized by people who don't know jack s***.
That is the absolute worst analysis Ive seen.
He hasn't been beaten deep all season, although he had one pi, and your analsis is he should have been beaten deep
To pile on you are calling perfectly played Ints negative plays.
Someone is watching through agenda colored glasses.
And the coverage on the 1st was excellent. That is what is stupid here. The corner plays the technique perfectly, baits a throw that he can close on, and by being underwthrown, its a pick, and people want to criticize it.
Who are all those corners getting Ints on balls perfectly thrown to the receiver?
Regardless if a camera was there he didn't have to say ANYTHING about it. I think the fact he did speaks volumes. I doubt anyone prodded him to give a soundbite about McCourty and that is what he came up with.
BB wasnt silent about Ocho, Maroney, Butler, Donald Hayes, Terry Glenn.
My remarks are totally relevant. Do you mean to tell me that BB wasnt asked about those players? He most definitely was and BB spread the good cheer about how hard they were working in practice to get better.
As Ive said before, when McCourty picks the pocket of QBs like Eli, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, then I will buy in to all the hype that he has turned the corner. Ryan Fitzpatrick having one of his meltdowns doesnt impress me.
Please name all the times he was clearly beaten? I can think of two or three times all season and one of them he came up with the INT.
McCourty was torched once or twice in the Ravens' game and then played a key role in shutting Larry Fitzgerald down on his worst game since his rookie year and Steve Johnson last week.
McCourty has played solid coverage all year with a few exceptions. But in some hypothetical theory that he faced Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison circa 2004, he would have gotten torched.
there was a chart i saw that showed mccourty is having his best start in all 3 years. anyway the PI in the baltimore game was the right. but i think e can all agree the hold was phantom as it gets. i often notice that when mccourtey messes up, hes usually right there with the receiver, but then he cant find the ball. he has to learn how to finish
For whatever reason, last year he was often beaten deep, and what you see as not looking for the ball, was unable to look for the ball because he has too much ground to close. Looking up for the ball when the receivers is 3 steps ahead of you is pointless.
The PI was an example of that, but it wasn't a skill or technique issue, IMO, it was that he took a situation gamble that was logical, but ultimately wrong and sat on the sticks thinking the WR wouldn't go deep in that situation. It was a tremendously risky play for Bmore. A low percentage throw in a situation where an incomplete pass probably would have cost them the game.
In the same situation all over again, I would have no problem with Mccourty taking the same gamble. You can't really say forcing a low percentage throw is a bad move because it worked one time.
I agree with the point of your post, but here is also part of the misconception.
If you study the film, there were 2 plays on that last Bmore drive that seem to be what you are referring to.
They weren't good plays, but torched is a terrible characterization.
One the first, after a bunch of deep routes all day, including one he dropped an Int on, they ran an intentional underthrow up the sideline. Sure he overplayed the deep route, but a completion on an intentional underthrow on a go route is not being 'torched'.
On the PI, it is blatantly obvious from the film and the situation that it was an error of plan, not execution. He is covering based upon the situation. Its 3rd and 9 from the 34, up 2, vs a rookie FG K.
5 yards is very important. 9 yards is devastating. An incompletion is probably a Patriot win.
You cannot ever convince me that overplaying the short throw and the sticks and taking the chance at the low percentage throw in that situation is not a smart move. Now, the criticism that he was not under control when closing on the receiver and there was no value in risking PI instead of chancing he wouldn't make the catch, is valid, but again, 'torched' is an awful description of what really happened.
Were you talking about other plays than those?
Well, considering none of those QB's are on the Pats schedule, McCourty apparently has no shot of having a good year regardless of how he plays.
some of you mofos need some cocaine n hookers I tell ya ... There is always a conspiracy behind everything ... geez, Felgah Syndrome..
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