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Originally Posted by sebman2112
What "two" illegal hits? He only made one illegal helmet to helmet hit on Heap. He gave Heap a shot earlier in the game where he lead with his shoulder/helmet, but he didn't actually make contact with his helmet, and he didn't hit Heap in the helmet on that play, either (perfectly legal). The other big hits from Meriweather weren't even close to being illegal. Yea, Mason stayed down for awhile after Meriweather tried to separate him from the ball, but that hit was legal, and in bounds. He was called for "illegal contact" once, but that penalty was actually on Arrington, and Meriweather made a good clean hit in the endzone seperating the ball from the receiver.
I think the hit on Heap on the goal line is what the other must be. I personally don't think that one was intentional, or all that bad.
He got fined 4,000 K. A thousand per inchNooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bret Favre got in wicked trouble for that. Don't do it!
Am I wrong in thinking that they are not going to hand out suspensions for this past weekends games but will start handing out suspensions from this point forth?
This is nuts, plain and simple. What Brandon did was against the rules and potentially dangerous. He launched at Heep's head helmet-first. If he had led with his shoulder, which he could've done, it would've been an entirely different matter.
» Initial contact to the head of a defenseless receiver also will draw a 15-yard penalty. "Our clear movement is to getting out of the striking in the head area," Pereira said. "We're reading about injuries that say spinal and vertebrae. We've got to try something."
Smith said the new rules to protect a defenseless receiver are "very complicated."
"It's not just head-to-head contact," Smith said. "It's contact with the shoulder pads or the arm, any part of the body, with the helmet or the neck area. And again, a defenseless player definition, I'm not exactly 100 percent sure how they want to say a guy is defenseless."
He got fined 4,000 K. A thousand per inch
The rule would have applied even if Meriweather had clocked Heap with his shoulder. The key to the rule is the so-called defenselessness of the receiver, not just the helmet-to-helmet aspect.
when you were smoking in the boys room, i was playing football with men.
I'm not sure about that. It depends on what the defender is aiming at, doesn't it? If he leads with the shoulder and hits the receiver below the neck, I believe it's legal.
The sideline hit was on Mason, and perfectly legal.The second hit came awhile after the Heap hit. It was on near sidelines with both on the ground. I remember wondering if Meriweather was losing his mind, we couldn't afford another penality. It wasn't a very 'hard' hit and ref let it go. I don't remember who the WR was.
Yeah that was a Great hit, I want to see that EVERY week. I want opposing WR's and TE's to be terrified of catching a pass.The sideline hit was on Mason, and perfectly legal.
The second hit came awhile after the Heap hit. It was on near sidelines with both on the ground. I remember wondering if Meriweather was losing his mind, we couldn't afford another penality. It wasn't a very 'hard' hit and ref let it go. I don't remember who the WR was.
I saw a replay of that earlier, it was a good clean hard hit.It was Derrick Mason, and I thought the same thing, "what the hell are you doing, Merriweather?!"
I'm ok with the helmet to helmet hits getting fined and suspended. And even the spearing.
But I hope we don't start seeing flags on guys for laying a shoulder into someone's chest.
I have a feeling refs will start throwing flags for anything they view as a hard it.
If a receiver is coming across the field and catches the ball and a safety lays a shoulder into the recievers chest so hard his helmet pops off, that should not be penalty.
I want the players protected from the shots to the head, but if they are going to start flagging for hard hits in general, then they might was well foregoe tackling all together and throw flags on the players. Because there will be no way for a defender to judge what is a proper tackling technique.
The fine is steep, but he's lucky he wasn't suspended. Now he should take some additional funds and hire a coach who can teach him how to hit hard, but legally.