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  1. ironwasp

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    Apologies if this has been posted already, but I found this interesting little nugget on the net this morning from Jorge Milian, a writer who follows the Hurricans in Palm Beach.

    Several interesting things here, chief among them that this guy sees Meriweather as a corner rather than a safety, and not least because: "Don’t forget that Meriweather virtually shut down Georgia Tech’s Calvin Johnson (5 catches, 68 yards) just a few weeks after he moved from safety to cornerback."

    Also: "I dealt with Meriweather for four years and never thought of him as a troublemaker."

    That's a definite positive.
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    And a piece from the Standard-Times, which has spoken to his high school coach, who says the character stuff is totally overblown and Meriweather will fit right in here in NE.

    Maybe Jackie MacMullan and the CHB should have done some research and spoken to some people who knew Meriweather before their character assassination crap over the weekend.
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    Think before you write? That would be a new one for a lot of the Globe gang.
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    Meriweather has played FS, SS, and CB. My gut tells me he will play FS, but it's good to have the flexibility.
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    but that would have required..work! everyone knows only a few guys like mike reiss do that.
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    You know, Im betting that yahoos like MacMullan and CHB were arguing that teachers and students should carry guns to protect themselves against the potential of a Virginia-Tech-type killer. And here they are bagging on Meriweather.
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    Felger is going to look foolish once again,(or should I say, perpetually). When I briefly visited his station yesterday I thought I was hearing a re-broadcast as he was on the same rant, as the day before, about the Meriwether shooting. Things like "why didn't he just call police if he saw a suspicious car, isn't that what you'd do?", and sure he was getting ready to go work out at 6am(heavy sarcasm). God, Felger's become such a gossipy-b*tch!!@!! Talk about a smear campaign before the kid even puts foot on field!~!!:mad:
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    His flexability, I'm sure, kicked him up on our board.
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    Yes, it's good to know he might be in a position to cover across the backfield. I guess anyone capable of keeping Calvin Johnson quiet has some ability to play CB.
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    See, Felger thinks they were still rollin' from the night before, which if true wouldn't really matter. Thing is Cooper & Meriweather were up at 6am because they were supposed to attend a team workout. Felger might want to learn all the facts before he goes spouting off.
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    Back to the subject, Meriweather can and will play CB. That all said I believe his main role will be at FS. Dean Peas already said, his main role will be at Safety, but they will use him at CB in certain situations.

    I also think Meriweather could play CB if either Samuel or Hobbs go down with injury, and I think he could play SS if Rodney goes down. Knowing Meriweather's game I actually trust him at SS more than Eugene. Meriweather will play deep, but he also likes playing close to the LOS, he's very good at blitzing off the edge, or up the middle, and he likes playing the run.
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    He also went 4 other games without allowing a single reception.
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    Actually the only thing the Globe and Herald Sports sections are good for is lining the bottom of the bird cage or use as a new puppy's toilet, because they're both full of crap anyway! I don't buy either paper and only read Reiss on the internet. Both papers sports sections are useless drivel in my opinion.
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    I think it makes sense, I think corner is easier to play than safety (where you're basically the quarterback of the defense). Let him play some relief role for a year or two (maybe make him the nickel/dime back) and let him learn the system before he takes over as safety.
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    Eugene played Safety his rookie season, and he was a college CB. Meriweather was a Safety in college, who sometimes played CB. Honestly, I think Meriweather's starting at FS this season.
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    Exactly. Tomase had a great article on Moss the day after the draft where he called up Jermaine Wiggins and got his take on Moss as a player AND a teammate. Those guys both do a really good job, and they work hard.
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    If you're not reading the Herald's "Point After" and anything by John Tomase, you're really missing out. I agree with you about the Globe-besides-Reiss, though.
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    i think with the position flexibility we have with him, AD and wilson, you're going to see guys lining up all over the place pretty frequently next season.
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    I'm thinking that a Miami safety taken with the 24th pick, why have him play corner when we can have our very own Ed Reed laying out the hits. I mean, would Reed be better served playing corner? No. It's going to be amazing with a devastating safety like that roaming the field.
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    The line between safeties and corners is getting more and more blurred. You are getting a lot of safeties who have the quickness and coverage skills to play corner, and it seems that the big, linebacker type safeties are becoming more obselete.
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    You'd then be asking a leopard to change his spots. Over a period of time (which has seemed excruciatingly long), Felger has shown no ability, let alone inclination, to do such a thing.

    But for him, boy, it's nice work if you can get it!
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    If we are having this much trouble figuring out where AThomas, Vrabel, Wilson and Meriweather will be playing, ya think opposing quarterbacks might have a few difficulties figuring it out as well? If everyone can stay healthy, pre-snap reads are going to be less than helpful. I think you will see lots of movement and covert formations before the snap. Are they blitzing? Who is blitzing? Are they in a zone? Who is the safety? If disguised well enough, the entire offense will be guessing.

    As for linebacker and corner/safety acquisitions next year, look for this trend to continue. To get a 4-6 year commitment (FA or high draft pick), you better be able to blitz, cover and adjust to multiple responsibilities on the fly. The NFL is a quarterback/passing league. Nickelbacks are almost considered starters and "2-down" run stuffers have become specialist (short yardage/goal line).

    We all seem to be anxious to put players in neat little boxes (LOLB, SILB, WILB, ROLB, SS, FS, LCB, RCB) that define their strengths and responsibilities, but who says it has to be that way? In fact, these very specific designations only serve to help the opposing offense. Hard to identify if the SS is in the box if you don't know who that is...or even if there is someone doing that "job" on the field.

    I think Meriweather is going to be a fine addition. If his mental abilities can match his physical tools, this defensive scheme (and the other skilled players executing it) could make him a weapon.
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    It appears that Sanders will eventually be the SS and Merriweather will be the FS.
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    Were getting close.
    I've said this before when we got Thomas.

    New England really doesn't play their safeties like conventional safties.
    The Free Safety is nothing more than a 3rd Cornerback
    The Strong Safety is nothin more than a Middle Linebacker with coverage responsibilities.

    By design this gives us flexibility to cover run and pass without having to change personell.

    Here is our Defense

    Defensive Lineman - 3 - responsible to netralize the 5 OL
    Outside LB - 2 - Protect against outside run & Pass Rush
    Middle LB - 1 - Brushi - Protect against inside run
    Cover LB - 2 - Thomas, Harrison - Protect against run at the hash marks - and drop into coverage to cover RB and TEs
    Outside Corners -2- Protect against Passes on the SL
    Middle Corner - FS - Protect against Deep Passes.

    Merriwether Fits one of he Corner positions. Certainly not big enough to fit one of the LB positions
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    ...and that can be particularly useful against a team running the "no-huddle".
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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    What, are you nuts? He wouldn't have anything to say. Having facts severely restricts your ranting options, you know that.
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    Nice analysis.
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    Meriweather is our future starting FS. I expect him to get some playing time at nickelback.
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    #24 Jersey

    Unfortunately this is the first post i read.

    But He will do both for year one.
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    Agreed. I expect him to be starting Week 1 at S. If not then, than soon after.

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