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  1. IllegalContact

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    I like the front office again.

    now get mankins back in here
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

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    Trade makes no sense from any angle.......

    Why would moss want to be traded to a team with a side show QB, who prolly is all done and if he isn't will keep the whole team in the dark this offseason.

    Brady HAS to think this sucks...guy that made him elite sent packing.

    Patriots basically giving there most potent offensive weapon away mid season.

    More draft pics Bellyache will most likely piss away.

    Moss was mildly upset over his contract, but unless hw went completely off the reservation since monday, I just don't get it.
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    Moss made Brady elite? Dumbest thing I've read here today, and believe me, you had some pretty strong competition.
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    Brady wasn't an elite QB before Moss? You've got to be kidding. Moss gave Brady his first legitimate deep threat and oh btw he missed him more on those deep threats than he hit him.

    The reason that this trade makes perfect sense is because they had no intention of giving him an extension, so instead of him becoming a cancer as the season wears on and getting nothing for him as he goes to F/A they now have a 3rd rounder and a cancer free lockerroom for the balance of the season.

    As for Moss being the most potent weapon on offense....stop, that could easily be Welker, Hernandez or even Brady before its Moss.
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    I'd be willing to bet that this doesn't happen without brady being in the loop.

    in fact, I think the opposite will happen in that brady will become rejuvenated working with the young guys.

    the pats have nothing to lose now. and if I was another team, I would be worried about that fact.
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    I think you're going to be surprised how less often Welker is open when hes no longer being covered by a linebacker.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    You are a brave man :)
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    You dudes are fooling yourselves. Brad'y level of play/production went through the roof woth moss on board.

    Without moss dragging two defenders everywhere he goes, things won't be so easy for welker and the rest.

    Moss was by far the most potent weapon...........Stoopid ****** trade. Thanks bill.
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    "Well, F$^%" - Brady
    "Indeed" - Welker

    In seriousness, I'm sure Brady will be a little disapointed since it seemed he liked Randy. But I'm sure he'll make it work to some extent. He has done more with less. Doesn't mean I'm happy, but what's done is done.

    EDIT: I mean to say in that next to last sentence that he has done good with more than what he has now (without Moss).
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    Minn gave up a first and third for moss...only they were about 12 years apart.
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    "Brady HAS to think this sucks...guy that made him elite sent packing."

    Quite possibly the stupidest thing ever written here. That's such flawed thinking that you should be put on Patsfans probabtion.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    well..... I was deemed a 'hater' a long time ago.

    the biggest plus here is that the scheme will require the offense to become tougher and more physical.

    I want to see a 21 year old 6'6" / 270lb TE paste a 35 year old Ray Lewis and then follow it up with a pancake of terrell suggs.

    I want to see the pats say 'screw it, we are the youngest team out there, so lets make these old farts pay for it'
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    "Bellyache" was funny I have to give him that
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    I wonder what Favre/Moss will do to the pats shutdown secondary here in a couple weeks...........god what a nightmare.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    go sulk somewhere
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    not in the playoffs
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    I'm not saying I like the trade but . . .

    to say it makes no sense from any angle is just wrong. If you assume we would lose him at the end of the year anyway, we got a #3 in 2011 instead of a #5 (at best) in 2012 (per comp pick expert AdamJT13, see other posts) so we got a lot more than had we kept him. That doesn't necessarily make it a good trade but it makes sense in that way.

    As for Brady, I'm sure he loved Moss in some ways but he's probably happy to no longer have to babysit him.
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    Moss to BB: "I'm very unhappy my consecutive pass streak is broken." BB: "You're unhappy after the big team win we had Monday night? Okay you can start a new streak in Minnesota." You gotta laugh.
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    Yeah, brady didn't produce more with moss here...WTF was I thinking.
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    How does the trade make no sense? You guys are obviously going to trade, and sign for Vincent Jackson.

    3rd round from Minny, and one of your 3rd's for 2011 draft. I think the Chargers would do that.


    edit: it's actually a brilliant idea to get rid of Moss.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    My thoughts...

    There are no huge egos left on the offense or defense. I don't like the loss of another great veteran player, but in the long run I think this move will help team cohesion.

    It should also force Brady to spread the ball around. Don't expect him to adapt right away... this offense will more than likely struggles for the next few weeks against top defenses.

    Finally, I can't believe they only got a 3rd round pick for Moss. It really blows my mind that a guy with his talent could only be worth that much. There has to be more to this story.
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    Brady has performed admirably without Moss but he's never been better than when Moss was in tow.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    Some of those egos were based on what's the word? Talent?

    Can team cohesion make up for lack of elite talent?
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    I didn't see AdamJT13's note - but that makes me feel a little better about this. The idea that we moved him to essentially move a 3rd round pick up a year disturbed me.

    Still, I don't think they got enough.

    They must feel that this is an addition by subtraction somehow. It's clear to me - there's noway they do this deal otherwise. I'd imagine Brady - and this would never, ever be on the record, but in private - is OK with this deal, and maybe saw that Moss' petulance was a distraction from the ultimate goal.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    jets are filled with huge egos, it's really costed them right?
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    I'm not happy about this at all from any angle. BB just made our team weaker. I don't get this at all.
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    have the jets won something?
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    Re: I give the deal a 'thumbs up'

    Yea, let's pay the player that is currently refusing to play over the player that was playing 80% of the offensive snaps for the year. Seems logical.
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