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    #24 Jersey

    Ask Reagan.

    State mental hospitals were taken away by Governor Reagan in the seventies, and federal mental health programs were later taken away by President Reagan in the eighties.

    When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs. It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

    Seeing an increase in crime, and brutal murders by Herb Mullin, a mental hospital patient, the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals. But Reagan would not be outdone. In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act (crafted by Ted Kennedy), but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers program and its funding.

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    I really do not understand how the actions of GOVERNOR Reagan have any bearing on a Massachusetts problem.

    PRESIDENT Reagan was exactly right when he closed a Federal program performing fuctions that were clearly a States issue.

    I do not know why the Commonwealth of Massachusetts closed its centers, but there is short and long term care available here in the hospital system.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    You really should run things like this by your neighborhood "gatekeeper" (Hi Mr. P!) before posting them. That's from a left-wing blog for Pete's sake.

    The situation in the area of mental health over the last 50 years is a lot more complicated than this and blaming Reagan for the end of involuntary commitment is a pretty creative reading of history.

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    Was involved with the deinstitutionalization movement and it was a great idea...but was operationalized poorly when they closed the institution and put people in less restrictive environments, the money that was supposed to follow did not.

    The services that the institution provided did not follow and the rise of homelessness is part of this. Many on the streets who are conversing with themselves is piss soaked chino's need more care and attention than they are getting. Unfortunately, the providers are stressed to the max and cannot meet the needs of all. They also cannot force someone to take their meds or come in from the cold.

    There are provisions for institutionalization for those determined in danger to themselves and others, however spontaneous violence does happen occasionally.

    Unfortunately, once again the death of a person is politicized and there is little respect for the person or family. BTW this is the second time this has happened in Massachusetts in the past several weeks.
     
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    Wasn't weasle Dukakis mixed up in this with Massachusetts.

    Reagan, nobody's perfect, look at the Clown we have now (illegal alien)
     
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    #91 Jersey

    No, i think it was Gov King. In Ma. they started closing down the institutions in '80-81. Then Weld came in and started closing the group homes, i know i was there. :snob:

    Oh, but hes OUR illegal alien.
     
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