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  1. DarrylS

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    Kinda surprised that this Bush loyalist would throw the former boss under the bus.. not much new here, but a different point of view..

    Harry let me save you the trouble, BUSH BAD.....


    http://www.ajc.com/meetro/content/news/stories/2008/05/27/mcclellanbook_0527.html

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    #91 Jersey

    I've been waiting for this guy to write a book. From what i've heard he's the first insider to write one thats not designed to distance himself from Bush ,just tell the inside story.
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    It's very dark and lonely in there, isn't it Harry?
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    Is it too late for the White House to report what a bad person McClellan is. How long before a rumor comes out concerning McClellan's sexual preference.
    The people who defend Bush's legacy often say that it will take years to judge his presidency. A glimpse of hope in that statement that Bush is not all that bad, but they do not take into account insiders like McClellan offering information which confirms what Bush detractors have been saying all along.
    Peace in the Middle East. They have been fighting each other for thousands of years, but the U.S. will bomb away providing a haven for Democracy. Not too much difference between a beauty pageant contestant's thinking and Bush's.
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    The man has nobody to blame but himself, I can't understand him, he seems hell bent on self destruction and he doesn't seem to care, where are his advisors.
    The man was a world wide HERO following 9/11 he tore into Afganistan exactly where he should have gone then he screwed the whole thing up with Saddam, I think the Iraqi People DESERVED Saddam, the more of his own people he slaughtered the more they loved him, they are all savages in the middle east, if Saddam still had his WMD's and tried to use them thats when we should have Nuked Him and any other of those Pigs over there that try to kill us.

    The god damned screwy Green Democrats had better let this country get it's own oil or it's the end for this country as we know it, why is gas so high in England.

    Gas in Iraq is 18 CENTS a gallon-------------:singing:
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    How much access does the press secretary really have in the White house? Doesn't he just sit in his office and wait to be told what to say?

    That said, I think his analysis from the excerpt you posted is spot on.
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    Geopolitical change in the ME is exactly what it was about. He's not too far off in his assessment.
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    How come, if McLellan feels so strongly about the dishonor and deceit of the Bush Administration, he didn't come out with this before a book deal? I don't doubt the veracity of some of what he's saying, but if everything was so egregious, why didn't he quit and speak up at the time. Sure, that's easy to say for me sitting here, but it doesn't make it any less true.

    He may have a valid reason for waiting until now, but I think he's just cashing in on a trend.

    Also, the excerpts here aren't as harsh as the media portraying his story to be. I'm surprised that the media would be making it seem that way (sarcasm).
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    Yup, he sure did change the Middle East. Have you SEEN the skyline of Dubai lately? The Petro-Economies have definitely been helped by our Great President.
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    I thought the same thing. Why didn't he quit? I think he's probably the same as any other Washington hack, which means he's there to make a name for himself and a few bucks along the way. Morality doesn't enter into the equation in Washington.
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    IF he felt this way he should have resigned.
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    I'm sure he didn't agree with everything that was being done, or being said, since no two people will ever agree, or disagree, 100% of the time. I have no idea what he says in his book, or what claims he makes, so obviously I can't opine on the book in any direction. That being said, people who write books, do so for two reasons. One is because they have a story to tell, and the second is because someone is paying them for it. I always like to think that there is some truth to the premise said book is being written under. The issue tends to be how much is truth, and how much is sales. For example, Jose Canseco was on the money when it came to steroids in baseball, but he was about the money, when it came to a lot of the specific details. I'm not saying SM is Jose C, I'm merely making a point about books. SM could be 100% accurate in his book. Who knows.
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    Right, cuz the war in Iraq is responsible for all that. :rolleyes:
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    #12 Jersey

    Originally Posted by STFarmy

    He may have a valid reason for waiting until now...


    Yeah..........the same reason Matt Walsh had.
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    Were it so simple. The Bush Administration did far more than the War on Iraq.

    Don't forget, he and his VP are both Oil Men. The Oil industry is one area where they actually know what they are doing, unfortunately.
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    Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he's raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book. Certainly let's look at the politics of it.

    -Scott McClellan

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/03/20040322-4.html

    Funny how he can discredit himself!!!!

    If he thought this was true about Ricahrd Clarke, certainly we can say the same thing about him.
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    And???? It's typical ignorance to dump the pile of poop we're in, on the laps of the people who are currently in charge. Clearly, the bosom buddies in the Oval Office deserve a giant slice of blame pie, but they don't get the whole thing. This is part of the reason why we have such problems in this country. People think that there aren't any problems when the good times roll around, and that the bad times are the only time problems exist. GW has simply poured gasoline, onto an open flame.
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    Well, by the age of 5, my folks had taught me never to do that.

    ......and he is the President of the United States?

    What will he do for an encore? Stick his finger in a wall socket?

    All kidding aside, my point was that he and Cheney are Oil Men. They have decades in that business. They should be somewhat expert on it. Perhaps they ARE experts on it and just have goals that are at odds with the general well-being of the United States of America? Exactly where do their loyalties lie? With the USA or with Halliburton, Exxon, State of Texas, etc.

    Imagine if Bill Gates was President and Steve Jobs was VP. If the price of computers rose 5 fold over 7.5 years you don't think there would be "questions"?

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