Interesting stuff we have all seen before, but with all the conjecture and hyperbole about Obama this provides some balance and reality.. the first is the 60 minutes report and the second is a very damning you tube compilation of the greatest gaff of McCain... this guy concerns me.. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/07/60minutes/main3917681_page2.shtml "I believe that we can succeed and I believe the consequences of failure are catastrophic. Those who say just withdraw, then you say, 'What next?'" McCain asked in the 2007 interview. "I wonder at what point do you stop doing what you think is right and you start doing what the majority of the American people want?" Pelley asked. "Well, again, I disagree with what the majority of the American people want. Failure will lead to chaos, withdrawal will lead to chaos," McCain said at the time. "That was not what the American people wanted to hear at that time," Pelley pointed out. "That's exactly right. It's not what they wanted to hear. I can read the polls very well," McCain said. "But you said it anyway," Pelley said. "Well, I said, at the time I'd much rather lose a campaign than lose a war. Now, more and more Americans are believing that the surge is succeeding. I'm very glad of that," McCain replied. http://www.youtube.com/user/mccainsnightmare A very interesting 6 minutes of your time..