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McCain calls for 45 new nuclear power plants by 2030

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  1. STFarmy

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    This is interesting. Haven't seen much discussion of nuclear power on here, but as far as I'm concerned, it's better than relying on oil.

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    SPRINGFIELD, Mo. - Sen. John McCain called Wednesday for the construction of 45 new nuclear reactors by 2030 and pledged $2 billion a year in federal funds "to make clean coal a reality," measures designed to reduce dependence on foreign oil.

    In a third straight day of campaigning devoted to the energy issue, the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting also said the only time Democratic rival Barack Obama voted for a tax cut was for a "break for the oil companies."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080618/ap_on_el_pr/mccain
     
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    There are increasing numbers of environmentalists who're saying that nuclear could save the planet (Pop Science or Discover)...but what do you do with the waste?
     
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    We don't need more ICBMs. If you're suggesting blasting it into space (I think maybe directly into the sun?), remember Challenger.
     
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    No, no!
    The trick is to use a vehicle other than the space shuttle.

    Maybe not the Atlas, but something more reliable like the Saturn V...we got any of those lying around?
     
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    I also read a very interesting theory of depisiting it into subduction zones of the earth's crust...where tectonic plates run under other plates and form volcanic zones. The waste would be pulled under the earth's crust by natural forces and we'd never see it again because by the time it resurfaces, if at all, the race would be long gone and the ape people would have to deal with the radioactive volcanoes.

    http://www.newscientist.com/backpage.ns?id=mg18625012.700
     
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    Interesting, thanks wistah. That was my big question too. I love the fact that it's clean (compared to oil and such), but the waste is a problem.
     
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    There's tons of articles on it. Google "Subduction zone disposal of radioactive waste"
     
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    I still wish they'd concentrate on fusion rather than fission...but it's almost as though man is genetically programmed to rip apart rather than pull together.
     
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    What does France do with it's waste? That's the question about nuke power that always troubled me too. What to do with the waste? Shooting it at the sun would be nice, but imagine if it didn't make it into space.

    Can you say...:eek:

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    Yeah. I was in Environmental Science, it was 10th grade I think. And Challenger had just happened not long ago, and we all knew Christa, she lived a mile or so from the school and stuff..so someone said "blast it into space' and the teacher said "what if Challenger had been carrying a couple tons of nuke waste?"
     
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    There's also still the huge problem of where to put the waste. But as Rudy Giuliani suggested recently, if a bunch of European socialists can figure out what to do with the radioactive leftovers, why can't we? "France is ahead of us in nuclear power," he said recently, with the same sort of disgust he might use in reporting that the Red Sox were ahead of his beloved Yankees. "Eighty percent of the electricity in France comes from nuclear power."

    But when it comes to reaching a definitive solution on how to deal with nuclear waste, our vieux allies are stuck in the same quandary as we are. For years, Congress has been debating a proposal to store nuclear waste in Nevada's Yucca Mountain. In France, where plans to bury waste in rural areas raised similar hackles, the response has been to change the conversation. France has developed a program to store waste temporarily, while researchers figure out what to do with it. It's hardly an elegant solution. Which explains why nuclear energy, which has been the energy of the future for the last 50 years, may continue to be so.
     
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    That is the ultimate prize. Imagine how the world would be transformed with limitless and free (other than facilities) energy? And with H2O as the waste product?
     
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    Bury it under San Francisco.
     
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    Or in Christmas Cove.. the clams will flourish..
     
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    Why aren't all the people that blubber about "burying the waste" in America blubbering about the waste being buried in Europe.

    The loons want us to stop using oil, the loons don't want us to go Nuclear, the loons don't want us using coal, the loons don't want us burning wood, what does that Scumsucking Millionaire Bellowing Raving
    F-cking Lunatic Al Gore and his gang of Nuts want us to do.

    I now think that the $5 Per Gal gas is a good thing, it will force America to Drill Our Own, Build Nuke Plants, look for Alternative Energy and send a message to the Green Gore Bastards that the common sense American would prefer that they and their Goofy Leader (Gore) all go out into the forest somewhere and "f-ck a tree" and stay the hell out of our way.

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