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    They hope to sentence him to death by hanging.



    Law School Plans to Prosecute Bush

    The Massachusetts School of Law at Andover will convene a conference in September to lay plans to prosecute President Bush and other high administration officials for war crimes. "This is not intended to be a mere discussion of violations of law that have occurred," says MSL's dean Lawrence Velvel in a statement announcing the conference. "It is, rather, intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up, to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if need be, to the ends of the Earth."

    The ends of the earth, in this case, may be Crawford, Texas, where President Bush is likely to be found after his term is up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The Wild West locale could be the perfect place for such a trial, given the punishment Velvel proposes for anyone who is convicted. "We must insist on appropriate punishments," Velvel said, "including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war-criminals in the 1940s." Sending administration officials to the gallows, he added, "would be a powerful lesson to future American leaders."

    Hangings could be a tough sell, even for a law school dean. Velvel acknowledges as much, noting that past practice has been to allow former presidents and cabinet members to retire to lives of relative peace and prosperity. Not this time, he hopes. In addition to President Bush, others Velvel wants to put on trial include Vice President Richard Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and former Justice Department lawyer John Yoo. He leaves the final list of war-crimes defendants to be determined at the Sept. 13 and 14 conference, but suggests it could also include federal judges and members of Congress. Other items on the conference agenda: what crimes were committed, where might they be prosecuted, and who will coordinate all this.

    Apart from the national and international political implications of all this, there could be local hurdles to overcome. Three citizens of Andover -- the town where MSL is situated -- were among those hanged for witchcraft as part of the 17th century Salem witch trials. These days, however, the town is a chichi Boston bedroom community known as home to equally chichi Phillips Academy. No doubt, any proposal to erect a gallows on the MSL campus might not make it past the local planning board.

    http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2008/06/law-school-plan.html
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    to the ends of the Earth!

    maybe thats why Bush wants lunar exploration, so he can go there after his term to avoid prosecution.
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    Good for them.
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    they may need to take a number... as Bugliosi's book has spelled out (in painful detail) legitimate jurisdiction for any county in America who lost a soldier in this fraud, there may be lots of entities waiting for a shot at Boy King and his handlers...

    as a priority list for who should most face accountability.... if i had my druthers, mine would go like this:

    1. Richard Pearle
    2. Dick Cheney
    3. Karl Rove
    4. Donald Rumsfeld
    5. William Kristol
    6. Paul Wolfowitz
    7. Doug Feith
    8. David Addington
    9. Condi Rice
    10. Boy King
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    I'm curious why you place a journalist (or whatever you want to call Kristol--I think you and I have had the conversation where I've expressed my disgust with him) above GWB?

    Also, why Condi above GWB?
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    On a different note, it might be interesting to see them try to go to Crawford and take Bush out...lots of people down there still like him, and the Nuge lives there too...and the Nuge has more guns than Smith and Wesson....

    LOL
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    WOW Mass is a tough state. It must be a puritanical streak left over from ah back in the day so to speak.
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    What no Bill Clinton who allowed the sale of top secret missile technology to China in exchange for donations to the DNC? Now they can lob multiple war head ICBMs at us. He sold out this countries security. And it's high treason.
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    LOOK AT CLINTON!!!!!

    he did bad stuff....

    pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....LOOK AT CLINTON!!!!!!




    ahhh.........(sigh) back to Bruce:

    "It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee 1974 Enter The Dragon
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    If i recall the W88 warhead info was stolen, (as in espionage) not sold to the Chinese. If thats what your referring to.
    It was a Chinese national working at Los Alamos.
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    I simply don't see how he gets left off that list if someone is going to make that list.
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    Guess again


    As the Clinton administration debated whether to allow U.S. satellites to be lofted into orbit aboard Chinese missiles, Bernard Schwartz, chairman of Loral Space & Communications, and Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung, allegedly using money from the Chinese army, gave more than $500,000 in soft money, ostensibly used for `party-building efforts,' to the Democrats.

    The Justice Department and Congress are investigating how a technical report on the explosion of a Chinese missile in 1996--a report that could help China assess the reliability of its missile arsenal--found its way into the hands of the Chinese.

    That report was prepared by employees of Loral, Hughes Electronics and other firms.


    ESTABLISHING THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND MILITARY/COMMERCIAL CONCERNS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (House of Representatives - June 18, 1998)

    Aug. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $75,000 to DNC.

    Sept. 30, 1995: Schwartz gives $20,500 to DSCC.

    Oct. 9, 1995: Secretary of State Warren Christopher decides satellites should remain a military munitions item.

    Nov. 29, 1995: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

    Nov. 29, 1995: A Chinese government agency writes Loral, asking for help in getting an upgrade for its dual-use imaging technology, exports of which are prohibited under U.S. sanctions.

    Jan. 26, 1996: Loral is sold to Lockheed for $9 billion.

    Feb. 6, 1996: Clinton approves the launch of four communications satellites on Chinese rockets.

    Feb. 6, 1996: Wang Jun of CITIC, owners of percentages in Chinese satellite companies, visits the White House for coffee and dines with Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

    Feb. 8, 1996: The White House and Commerce Department begin to talk about the satellite export issue again.

    Feb. 14, 1996: A Chinese rocket carrying Loral Intelsat satellite explodes

    Feb. 15, 1996: Schwartz gives $15,000 to DSCC.

    Feb. 15, 1996: The State Department gets an urgent request from the White House to speed up the process of switching the satellite licensing to the Commerce Department.

    Feb. 29, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which bankrolls Democratic House candidates.

    March 8, 1996: China launches missiles.

    March 14, 1996: Clinton decides to move the satellite licensing function to the Commerce Department.

    March 15, 1996: Loral President J.A. Lindfelt writes Commerce to say the export of a dual-use technology, known as synthetic aperture radar, is being held up by the Defense, State and Commerce departments.

    April 1996: Schwartz announces the formation of Loral Space and Communications.

    April 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $50,000 to DSCC.

    June 10, 1996: Schwartz gives $100,000 to DNC.

    July 22, 1996: Liu Chao-Ying of China Aerospace meets Clinton with Johnny Chung.

    July 31, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

    August 1996: Chung accounts show an influx of $300,000 from Liu Chao-Ying.

    Aug. 18, 1996: Chung gives $20,000 to DNC to attend Clinton's birthday party.

    Aug. 28, 1996: Chung gives $15,000 to DNC at Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

    Sept. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $30,000 to DSCC.

    Sept. 20, 1996: Schwartz gives $20,000 to DSCC.

    Oct. 16, 1996: Schwartz gives $10,000 to DSCC.

    Oct. 18, 1996: Schwartz gives $70,000 to DNC.

    Oct. 24, 1996: Schwartz gives $5,000 to DSCC.

    Nov. 5, 1996: New guidelines on Commerce licensing of satellites are published.

    Nov. 5, 1996: Clinton is elected to his second term as president.

    Oct., 1997: A federal investigation of Loral begins.

    Feb. 12, 1998: As Clinton ponders whether to sign another waiver allowing launch of a Loral satellite aboard a Chinese missile, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger sends him a memo saying the Justice Department `has cautioned that a national interest waiver in this case could have a significant adverse impact on any prosecution [of Loral] that might take place based on a pending investigation of export violation.' But Berger adds that `the advantages of this project outweigh the risk,' and `it is inappropriate to penalize [Loral] before they have even been charged with any crime.'


    Feb. 18, 1998: Clinton signs a waiver allowing Loral satellite to be lifted into orbit by the Chinese.

    A Pentagon office concluded in a still-secret report that "United States national security has been harmed," according to government officials.
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    understood.

    I agree.
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    "Guess again " Mike. I guess I guessed wrong. Damm i hate it when that happens. I did say "IF" though.
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