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Mass. Pols want Illegals to Count for Politics

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  1. Real World

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    This is comical. What a Banana State in a Banana Republic. So now, we are going to count illegals, who can't vote mind you, for political purposes, so we can save a house seat. Doing this of course would bypass the due punishment we should recieve for our states failure to keep people here in the first place. Accountability people! Total joke. What's funny is they'll surely only count as many as is required to save the seat. They won't tell you there are half a million illegals here sucking on social services, which help bleed the state dry. Maybe if our politicians worried more about fiscal sanity, and less about hand outs, people wouldn't leave in the first place. Afterall, this state is one of the most expensive to live in inside the country. Nice going frauds. Keep raising taxes and fees you losers.


    Stand up and be counted

    By Joe Dwinell and D. Craig MacCormack
    Friday, January 19, 2007

    Bay State officials seeking to save a coveted congressional seat are turning for help to residents who can’t even vote: illegal immigrants.

    A census of the often-maligned underground residents - who face constant calls for their deportation - could be critical to reaching a population total that could preserve the seat.

    “We need to chase them,” Secretary of State William Galvin said yesterday, stressing the need for an “all local” hunt for everyone living here.

    Crucial to the census success: Convincing the estimated 150,000 to 200,000 illegal immigrants that they will simply be counted, not arrested.


    http://news.bostonherald.com/localPolitics/view.bg?articleid=177974
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    You are 100% correct. NO good can come of this lazy man's way to deal with the problem. People have thrown away all their history books on what happened to Rome and other great civilizations: death from within.

    What the U.S. needs to do is to start a new version of the "Peace Corps", but instead of just building a little school or library or hospital here and there, we need to make major investments of skilled personnel and long-term loans to create modern infrastructure in under-developed countries.

    Of course, along with that, we need to export a much higher standard of morality than Madonna, Britney, Rosie O'Donnell, Hugh Hefner, and "Queer Nation". A strong moral fabric is the foundation for ANY nation's strength and well-being; without it you only get flashy diamonds, drugs, and Bentleys all pimped out. Hardly the stuff of a well-grounded society.


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    Hillary wants all the felons in prison to be able to vote, they want the Illegal Alien Criminals and the Convicted Felons because they know they're all Democrats.
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    Yes we must fight against anything that might take power away from the good folks who gave us George Bush. Removing one Rep from the Mass delegation is the only way to be certain to keep this un-moral nation on the road that our great decider has placed us on. God speaks to him and people who live in the bible belt. MA really should have no voice at all. God never talks to any of us.
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    The Republicans already engineered that criminals who can't vote count in this way. In Texas, they managed to convert at least one swing district into Republican by gerrymandering and putting a prison there. The prison adds to the local population with nonvoters, so that a Republican district can be created. As long as our government provides any benefits or services to illegals, they should be counted just as prisoners are counted. It's actually a taxpayer rights issue. As long as states have to contend with the issue of illegal immigrants, we should be entitled to any appropriate tax dollars and other benefits. The interesting thing is that if MA gets its way, I wouldn't be surprised if the same approach benefited red states more than blue states.
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    #75 Jersey

    What an interesting Catch 22 this is. More problems because of our addiction to federal tax $. In our junkie lust for fed money, we have to compromise our laws and the degree to which we "value" people whether they are illigal aliens, prisoners, or anyone else. It's like the drinking age. Sure it's a state's decision what the age is set at, but if you don't go to 21, you don't get the highway funding. Chase the carrot on the stick...SUCKAH!
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    Thank you Wistah.

    To the rest, any questions?
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    Yes, but that's really a separate point. MA pols are dealing with the reality as it now is. And, as it now is, they want at least their share of federal dollars, which after all is our tax money (a disproportionate amount of which goes to states like Alaska, Virginia, and Maryland). To not pursue the money and influence that is derived from our population would be irresponsible.
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    Illegal Aliens are criminals,
    Most all criminals vote Democrat.
    :bricks:
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    Illegal aliens can't vote, and in most cases criminals can't vote.
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    If they could they'd vote for the democrats, Hillary said so - :D
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    #75 Jersey

    That's right, everybody. Keep feeding the monster and ignore the fact that you're going to be its next meal. What could be more irresponsible than that?
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    Massachusetts Are Taxes Going Up, The Governor Needs Some Money To Buy Some "Worms".
    (he's studying them)

    This is OK Though Because He Is A Loony Democrat.

    Deval's Worms Will Bring Salvation, Peace And Prosperity To The Entire World

    Praise Jesus And God Bless Bless Deval's Worms.

    :bricks:
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    We all know how Patters truly feels. He's a save the children guy by any means possible. He preaches equality, kindness, compassion, and save the children, but when push comes to shove, he's totally unabashed at pissing on any principles or rules he holds others to, so long as it benefits his own personal agenda. Whether it's children being moslested so he can exploit it for political gain, or whether its counting illegal aliens to secure federal tax dollars we don't deserve. Accountability? Nah....
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    Real World, I regard your defense of the Republican coverup of Foley as peculiar, to say the least. Apparently, you think criticizing Foley can only be political opportunism and thus exploits children. From that perspective, I suppose we should always keep quiet about child abuse, lest it benefits us politically. It actually sounds like you're trying to protect the child abusers by accusing those who expose them as exploiters. Do you think a police officer only goes after child abusers because he wants a promotion? I hope that's not what you mean, but it's how your point comes across.

    Second, for both you and Wistah, while it might be noble from a libertarian point of view for a state to turn down federal tax dollars, who would you ask to bare the burden of that? State homeland security? State programs that feed and help the poor? Drivers who depend on good roads? R&D at biotech companies, technology companies, and universities? The people who depend on clean water, fishing, etc.? Subsidies and monies for infrastructure repair and for low-income housing? What specifically are you willing to give up?
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    Save Your Worms Send Them To The New Governor
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    Felons gave up there right to vote when they made the decision to break the law that the rest of us law abiding citizens are responsible to up hold...POINT BLANK...No other way around it,You arent a part of the society..Dont even try to push the matter..
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    ok, wtf does that mean?
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    I though his name was Patrick Deval, he should look in his closet there might be some Moths in there thats usually where they hang out.

    Tell your kids to bring some Worms to the State House on their next field trip.

    I had an Aunt who had Worms.
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