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    We have jumped the shark on gluttony

    Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating 'Triple Bypass Burger' at Heart Attack Grill

    The customer, estimated to be in his 40s, was wheeled out by paramedics when he was just midway through his 6,000 calorie burger. The chain owner, a former nutritionist named Jon Basso, said that the man "could barely talk" and was "sweating and suffering" as tourists took photos and videos from the street:
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Truth in advertising.....


    6,000 calories?!?!?! Holy crap....
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Sometimes our culture just flat-out sucks.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    how long until the lawsuit?

    (the man lived, btw)
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Natural selection.

    He should be required to cover all medical costs out of pocket.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I don't know how people can eat that stuff. I can't even order a basic burger at McD's without feeling guilty.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    No doubt, that would bankrupt him. This sentiment sounds like something cons would say. You're better than that.

    I doubt that particular hamburger caused the heart attack, but rather a lifetime of cheap eating.

    Perhaps if our corporate food conveyor belt ever endured some real blowback for poisoning its citizens for the sake of profit, then maybe our gluttonous culture wouldn't be so disgusting. When you make "enhanced" and unnatural food cheap, of course poor people are going to buy what they can afford.

    This is a perfect example of how in unfettered capitalism, profit trumps health. And any real accountability for that kind of slow-motion genocide is met with "stay out of my pocket" outrage.

    People really shouldn't complain about fat America if they're unwilling to change the way money works in this country. Not without sounding painfully naive.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I always wonder just how many weeks it would take the girl in that picture to eat one of the burgers and maintain the figure that got her that job in the first place. She'd probably have to freeze at least half of it to keep it from rotting in the fridge, right?
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    most of her isnt real anyway...



    VEGAS!
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    The insurance companies would love that!

    If you are a smoker and have any medical problems that might be related to smoking, sorry not covered. Kidney problems? Oops, we know you drink beer every Sunday while watching football, not covered.

    Diabetes? Not a chance in hell of having that covered because we have pictures of you eating donuts.

    Heart Disease? Nope, you are 30lbs over a safe BMI, sorry not covered.

    Yeah, that would help out the bottom line for insurance companies.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Sometimes our culture is just flat out awesome. [​IMG]

    I bet it's in the works already.

    If he doesn't have insurance, absolutely.

    We aren't the most, or one of the most obese countries in the world for nothing.

    So it's capitalisms fault that people are obese? What "unfettered" capitalism are you speaking of btw? Can't be the same unfettered system where which the government subsidizes the farm and food industry, is it? :confused2:

    I hope you got that insurance! Cuz if you don't have it, that's why you need it. :D
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    In a lot of ways, absolutely. People still have a role of personal responsibility to play, sure, but economics certainly limits their choices.

    When profit margin is the singular driver and dictates that you sell disgusting food to your fellow countrymen? Most definitely it's the fault of capitalism. As a CEO of a major food company, you have a choice, do you not? You can inject hormones into your lifestock, or you can take pride in your company and serve a relatively healthy product.

    Was profit margin not the equation when Big Tobacco was putting addictive agents in their filters for decades? Or was it just a few rogue CEOs in North Carolina? Either way they had a choice. They chose to make people more sick than they ever needed to be for the sake of profit.

    Ours, where plutocracy controls almost every aspect of American life...

    ... regardless of the state's select and specific favors to certain lobbyists.

    This being said, I don't believe anyone is entitled to a settlement.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Until they outlaw cigarettes and booze this is perfectly acceptable. Oh and sugar ;)
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Culturally, we like having plain old dumb options available.

    Look at the decor and the outfits. It's a hospital-themed menu. It's this big joke, oh look, ha-ha, so-called experts say this is bad for you but you know you want it no matter what it does to your heart.

    We just like stuff like this -- goes back to the old "freedom" meme. Unless of course it involves quicker forms of suicide for valid reasons (i.e., kevorkian-style "please end my suffering" choices) -- those would be unethical.

    Me, I smoke, drink less than I used to, and like some earlier posters, get the guilts if I hit the drive-through too often. I do it as a time-saver when I'm driving, but not really as a conscious "choice." I don't think I'd do an "eating challenge" where the contestants all end up looking green at the end (you know, "eat the 128 oz steak and it's free" -- that type of thing.) I wouldn't eat a 6,000 calorie burger.

    But of course, we must all be free to. That's very important. That's what Jefferson, Washington, Adams, and those guys risked their lives to enable us to do. That, and individual ownership of assault rifles (but you'll notice, not tanks and atomic weapons -- for all those who believe we're expected to overthrow our own gubmit one day with glocks.)

    As to his insurance situation, don't worry. If he's not insured, he'll get ER help, on your taxpayer dime, and emergency care stemming from that visit to save his life. Then it's "treat 'em and street 'em." No extended hospital stay.

    If he is insured, your premiums go up. But that's okay. As the bumper sticker says, freedom isn't free.

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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    My premiums go up if you get lung cancer too... Should you be denied coverage since it would be your own fault?
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    Seems interesting ... but I am not 350lbs so I will stick to my favorite venue of sin "Five Guys" which may not be good for me but it's a great guy hang out for me and my 12 year old from time to time.

    Try to 'bacon dogs' .... oh they are to die for with those perfectly cooked fries. :D

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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I agree Jack, the man was a fool, I love to eat but that crap is going to far.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Not sure "capitalism....economics certainly limits their choices" plays into this situation....

    Cant see many people, with their "choices limited by economics" dropping $12 on a burger....

    I think they would be better off with the #1 @ McDonalds, Super Sized....with a Diet Coke...you know cuz you have save those 300-500 calories on the full flavored soda and all...
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Game, set and match.

    This restaurant is making money, but Kevorkian ending the unnecessary and brutal pain of terminally ill cancer patients was the wrong one. Go figure the hypocracy of the "freedom fighters".
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    If he dies they should "stuff him" and put him standing up in their front window.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Good point, Kavorkian was my hero, I have watched a family member turn into a little 50 lb ball of delerious screming pain while the f-cking fools in the hospital did their best to keep her alive and screaming.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Kevorkian's idea was like $ down the drain- there was money to be made off the dying PROCESS-Kevorkian just got the deed done, and done for cheap (I think-I really don't remember if he charged people or how much he charged, but it was probably far less than months or years of pain medications, pureed carrots, and the rest of it). Take "death when I'm ready" off the table and a money machine door opens up. The "ethics" of it all was just the window dressing.

    That burger-WHO would eat that? And WHY? LOL I've had my share of cheeseburger and fries cravings but even their smallest burger looks a little dicey:eek:

    Does Denny's still have the Grand Slam? I remember controversy about it, the caloric count was 2 thousand or something? Our whole culture promotes this kind of food though; there's a show, Travel Channel maybe, that features restaurants serving meals like that, worse sometimes, it's almost promoted. The hot dog eating contest is on ESPN every year, on my way home I heard a commercial for some restaurant that featured "that delicious macaroni and cheese pizza" lol.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    Wow is that Quad Bypass burger even humanely feasible to eat? Craziest thing I ever seen.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    What do you think, Hamar?

    Do you think you should have risk pooling, allowing me to smoke and this guy to eat unwisely, or do you think we should not have risk pooling, therefore my ability to smoke and restricting his freedom to eat unwisely?
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I think people will do what they want either way. I also think that people judge other people's vices harsher than their own.

    What about you though? Do you think this guy's insurance company should be able to avoid any costs associated with his heart problems because of his eating habits?
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    "Supersize Me", comes to mind.

    Sometimes when the grandkids are over go to D & D to get three muffins to have them split for breakfast, every time I order three(what i need) they tell me if I buy four it is cheaper. I tell them no, then they get real confused.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I'm sorry you went through that, Harry. It doesn't have to be that way, you know. Advanced directives and lviing wills and a family who knows what you want and is willing to speak up can work wonders.

    My mother-in-law passed away 10 days ago....in the hospital and very peacefully. She'd been suffering for awhile - had a stroke in July 2010 and was bedridden, paralyzed on one side and virtually locked in - mostly unable to communicate meaningfully - but the nursing home and her doctors kept her pain free as far as we could tell for the whole time except for when she would get pneumonia or her feeding tube would come out and need replacing.

    She got sick on Sunday night - we transferred her to the hospital on Monday morning. In the course of doing a routine chest film for pneumonia they found a mass on her lung which, on Tuesday, changed the whole course of treatment. The doctors sat us down and explained what it would mean to try to track down the primary source of what appeared to be a malignancy and then clearly explained our options which ranged from treating everything agressively and giving her another few months of what would mostly be agony or stopping everything, keeping her comfortable and letting her die of her pneumonia. She had never made her wishes known, which made the decision a bit harder but the family decided they did not want her to suffer any longer.

    The hospital immediately called hospice, had her transferred to a large, comfortable and private room, started a constant morphine drip and her children who lived out of state traveled in. As soon as the morphine was started she calmed down and, for a day, would occasionally open her eyes and look around but by day 2 she was simply sleeping soundly. By the third day she died - surrounded by her family and so quietly that it seemed almost anticlimatic.

    The nurses, the hospice team (social worker, pain mamagement nurse, grief counseler, chaplin, two doctors) were always available but seldom intrusive and always helpful and supportive.

    It was a dignified death - done quietly and painlessly and with full cooperation from everyone, family and staff included.

    There are always options, Harry. No one, in this day and age, should die screaming.
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    Re: Man Suffers Heart Attack While Eating ‘Triple Bypass Burger’ at Heart Attack Gril

    I think -- actually, know, that if you go to get your own personal health insurance, it use to be that they wanted to know if you smoke, they wanted a physical to see how much heart attack burger you ate in general, and all the rest of it.

    However, in larger insured groups, you just filled out a form and you're in the pool.

    I liked the pool better when I was younger and had some better health predictors. I like the pool better now, when I'm older and have less positive health predictors.

    Two additional factors come into play:

    1) When you insure yourself, there's no company that picks up a portion of your costs, and

    2) The grand total bill for insurance is lower in a larger pool based on the power of a larger pool to negotiate.

    Given my druthers, I still would take risk pooling. From what you say, above, it's not like people are going to change their behavior and therefore help the "pool" in general as regards those very personal choices (whether you eat the heart attack on a bun, whether you smoke, etc.) Smokers, for example, already pay a premium of a gigantic sin-tax on every cigarette. Those who still smoke do so in spite of said enormous sin tax. I think Brooke Shields implying she'd never sleep w/a smoker did more to make people never start than anything to do w/the price. The demonization of smoking has been remarkably effective, and the campaign(s) that got the prevalence down to something like 20% should be studied for years to come.

    It's a good example of behaviors that are not rational to begin with, and so will only be weakly affected by rational appeals.

    And yeah one day I'll probably be surprised to find my MRI come back with a mass somewhere... and then people can whisper to each other "well, he did smoke," in order to believe that this was something that won't happen to them -- just as I have a bit of a dark chuckle at the guy going to a place that pitches how bad its food is for your heart, and has a heart attack.

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