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  1. BradyFTW!

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    That's the headline that ESPN is running with, anyways. True to form.

    Tom Brady of the New England Patriots owed by man who stole his flower planters - ESPN

    Not sure what I'm missing here. The guy took something, wasn't his, and now he has to pay restitution. Brady is probably unaware of the situation, and now that it's going to be brought to his attention, I'm willing to bet he'll tell the guy to keep his $4,000. This is working the Brady haters up into a frenzy though, as usual.

    See, I knew we should have traded him and kept Cassel.
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    It's the Herald up to it's old tricks. The espn article is based on the original column by the Herald. The Pats and Brady haters will be out in full force on this one.
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    I love how they easily take the word of a convicted bank robber.
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    How dare you, the convicted bank robber who goes around boston finding garbage to sell for cash has impeccable credibility.
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    The cops were going out on a limb for him at trial...he might genuinely have not known that he was stealing.
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    Good God. I can't believe there are 1000+ comments on that, most of them defending the guy who, ahem..."accidently took" the items he thought were trash and then brought them to a fence, I mean, "scrap metal place".

    My car is parked near my garbage cans, I hope one of the garbage men don't mistake it for trash and hotwire it one day.:rolleyes:
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    He's misunderstood. He sold all that green paper from the bank at the recycling center. 10 cents a pound.
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    Just to take this ridiculous story more seriously than i should...

    When you give something away with the trash, you put it on a sidewalk where someone might take it with permission. say a broken chair they could fix.

    You don't put 8,000 dollar planters that are worth 450 just for scrap, behind your garage in a secure monitored area so some clown can take them home.:rolleyes:

    Why is this guy pan handling, shouldn't he be on trial for grand theft?
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    Plus, he's aliar by his own testimony...

    "The guy mentions I took some flower pots," Paiva recounted for the Herald. "I said, 'I don't know what you're talking about.'

    OK...


    He said, 'We got you on the security camera.' And I said, 'Yeah, I took them, but they were out with the trash.'

    lol

    Feck him
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    I'm not a drunk or a bum

    I'm a thief [end of story]
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    That guy has shifty, criminal eyes. Totally guilty.
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    I'm sure once Brady hears about this he'll say, "Forget it" and just make sure not to leave anything outside. But jeez, it's not like he called 911 and demanded a SWAT team. I'm getting really sick of this hater crap.

    If it was a Manning, BSPN would've waited until he said "Forget it" and then ran the headline "Manning kindly forgives homeless man of $8,000 debt".

    Honest to God, if it had been Brady killed by a distraught girlfriend last weekend, it would have all been his fault. (I know there are some on this board who feel it was McNair's fault, let's not get into that again.)
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    Yeah, Ray Clay has it there, you couldn't believe a word from his mouth. This could be all one big stunt on his part to see if he can get Brady to drop it.
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    anyone else realize this so called man on the down and out is wearing a 35 dollar hat??

    he sounds like he makes a hell of a living hoarding scraps. throw the book at him for stealing
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    Huh? Big hunks of stainless steel are not trash the guy got 450 dollars in scrap value. Its the same thing as stripping copper from a building. But no maybe you are right and maybe when he robbed the bank he meant to pull out his atm card but drew his 357. I bet he thought damn I had more money than I thought. Oh yeah and ojs innocent and michael jackson loved the ladies.
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    The way it's described as being outside an idiot might not have realized that it's not scrap and the cops could have been guilt tripped into believing his story if they didn't already know him or they weren't already buddies with him...

    Guy is sounding like a moron who got caught doing something dumb at the wrong apartment building with an overseer who won't take and crap from scavagers...
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    If you take something that is not yours - you are stealing. If you walk onto someone property and take something that is not yours you are trespassing and stealing.

    These are fairly simple things to apply to your daily life - However you want to justify it is the basis of your own moral code.

    Another example of how celebrities and athletes are treated different than everyone else in the public eye.
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    even if it was an accident, I think the judgement was fair. Mistake or not, brady is still out the cost of them things. Someone should have to pay for them, it doesnt matter how much money they make.
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    Now some retards who are writing blogs at Stampede Blue and Gang Green are calling Brady a jerk for getting justice done saying he is rich and does not need it and other crap.

    If it were Manning or Sanchez totally different story I suppose :rolleyes:
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    When you put something in the trash, it's no longer yours. That makes a big difference in the situation.
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    Maybe if it's on the sidewalk. But if the "trash" is on your property it is still 100% yours and no one has the right to come on your property and take it.
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    Patriots should hire this guy.....ya never know when we might need to kick a field goal in a snowstorm.
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    What a wonderful, moving story; some sh!tstain of an ex con steals, profits off of it and has some do gooder pay off his debt.

    What a wonderful world we live in where all you have to do when you are found guilty of a crime is have a rag like the Herald make front page news out of it and some sap will come running to your rescue.

    Terrific.
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    And yet you all continue to read that piece of filth called the Herald. Until the public steps up and lets these @#$% know that we don't appreciate their reporting, they will continue to report garbage. Tom Brady should refuse to do any interviews with that piece of crap newspaper. I'm sorry after that spygate fiasco that they reported before the Super Bowl, I have no use for them. I don't read their trash and I don't BELIEVE ANYTHING they write. These clowns dance around the truth like nobody's business.
    Bob Kraft should have bought that newspaper and dismantled it piece by piece. I hate everything about that publication.
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    I believe no matter how Brady responded to this event the
    there would have been brainless fans of other teams that would
    have trashed Tom.

    If he gets compensation -- "mean rich dude"

    If he let the guy off the hook -- "no sense of justice"

    From my point of view ... sometimes it is good to show mercy and
    sometimes it is not. Depends on the situation.
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    I suppose, but it doesn't make it any less wrong. When I'm putting my trash out on Thursday nite, I'm not handing it out to whoever wants it - I am putting it there so the city can collect it the ensuing morning and dispose of it. I am not sure why it's legal for anyone to riffle through my crap at 2AM in the morning. As a result of this being the reality, I am forced to instead make sure I'm up early enough to put it out Friday morning, and avoid the midnite dumpster divers that inhabit the areas I've lived in, ie Cambridge/Somerville.

    Specifically to Brady, I find it unlikely that this ex-con is as innocent as it seems. Some authority not named Tom Brady decided that he had to pay restitutions. The reality is Brady probably has no idea about it, and its an issue between the con and whoever manages Brady's condo.
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    First of all, it wasn't trash, it was personal property left outside Brady's door by a deliveryman.

    Second, legally when you put something in the trash it is still yours until it's hauled away (like PatJew said.) I used to work as a phone agent for a company here that sells Wisconsin cheese, meat, candy, etc. by mail (don't ask me how they deliver it without it spoiling); and there was a big warning in the employee handbook about how anyone caught going through the trash for stuff would be charged with theft (and any employee who did it would be fired.)

    Also, I liked this reader comment at the end of the Herald story linked above:

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