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    Of course we do not yet know the injury but this looks like the perfect senario for the league to look into using HGH to treat an injury with doctor supervision. I bet many players would be in favor of this. Around the league they say that the NFL needs Tom Brady.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Yeah the league needs him but I'm not for bending the rules just cause it happens to be our teams star player.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Absolutely not. We wouldn't accept this from any other team, but because it's the Patriots and Tom Brady, we should make an exception?

    Too hard to regulate, and sends a bad message that the league doesn't want associated with it.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I am in favor of a complete rule change. Make it legal to use with doctor supervison when there is an injury. Every player should be able to have this treatment.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I dunno, something in me says this is not right, but I can't help but, at this time, agree with it.

    Get your best out there vs our best. I would rather watch that than watch the alternative....

    It's a moot point anyways cause it ain't gonna happen
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I agree with the basic idea--change the rules for everyone, not just Brady.

    I'm not 100% sure about HGH--and I say this only because I don't know enough about its potential side effects in these circumstances.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I can all but gaurantee Tom will use HGH to recover he just wont be dumb enough to get caught. He will buy it cash from a "source" its out there and its impossible to detect it will be used gauranteed

    and yes I am just speculating but come on I hope he does and I hope every injured athlete tries it cause its harmless from all the reports when used properly.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Maybe one of us can drop it at his door:rolleyes:

    Just think about what all the haters would say if he got caught. To bad we can't spike his water with it.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    he wont get caught just like the hundreds that get it and never get caught. You think RH and SM are the only few taking it. Carson Palmer had a similar injury and came back like nothing happened. THis is not natural. TO, Steve Smith,...etc the list goes on and on
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Football is a social event as much as it is a sporting event. Too many eyes on what these players are doing. If it's known that players are taking HGH to improve their injuries etc., this will become normal for soiety.

    Maybe the worry isn't for adults, but parents are already having this stuff proscribed for kids.

    In Texas where parents have been known to hold kids back so they can be older and bigger than their peers for football, this stuff would be used and abused.

    I vote NO, for the social principle of it. I don't want a beefed up society of HGH users. Kids are already taking attention-deficit inhibitors like candy just to do well on tests. When I was a kid, we tried recreational drugs. Kids today are into designer drugs that give them an edge.

    I say NO.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Sigh. The reason I said rule change is so there legal and legit way to go about it. Seems like Brady would be the perfect reason to seriously take a look at this issue. It might not be the first thing on my mind if this happened to Manning but nobody wishes these injurys on anyone obvoviously. There have to be one hundred players a year that could use this.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    There's no point in changing the rules for HGH because, quite simply, it doesn't work. All of the claimed benefits for none hormonally-deprived adults, both of performance enhancement and of healing promotion, are purely hypothetical, and none of them have been remotely supported in the lab.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    There are a lot of problems here, the biggest being

    1) There are still performance enhancing benefits not related to healing the injury

    2) Every NFL player always is hurt in one way or another so which injuries do you create an exemption for? Slippery slope.

    While everybody wants Brady back, I just don't think this works.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    No. Sorry Hgh would not help here nor is it safe cry to the FDA but this is never going to be allowed for any reason.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I don't know a whole Hell of a lot about HGH, but if the only advantage it gives someone is to heal faster, and the faster healing doesn't add any extra possibility of reinjury I don't see why they shouldn't be able to.

    I also would like to see them do something about hits on Quarterbacks below the knee. I'm not a league official so I don't know the right balance. You can't ban them completely but perhaps only when they're in the pocket or something like that. Too many QBs get hurt this way, Carson Palmer, JP Losman, and now Brady. But Brady won't be the last unless they do something about this. I know I sound like a whiner bringing it up now, but I've honestly felt this way for a long time, as anyone who's ever heard me take a crack at Kimo von Oelhoffen can attest to.

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showpost.php?p=969074&postcount=12

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showpost.php?p=674204&postcount=69
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    It doesn't have to be. How about this: if you take HGH, you have to go on IR, and you have to stop treatment by time X in order to play the next season.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I've been screaming this for years!- This is a great, great idea. There have been alot of studies done with HGH. Check out the book "Growing Young with HGH" I'm not a Pats fan, I'm not a brady fan, but nobody should go out like that. A torn ACL at the top of your game is horrible. We have the technology we should use it!!!
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    The NFL needs less drugs more than it needs Tom Brady back.

    Let's not get crazy. He'll have the best docs in the world working on this. HGH would do what...speed up the process a little? C'mon.
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    Sorry man, but you are wayyyy off base here. HGH has a very useful place in the rehabilitation process when under the care and supervision of a medical professional.

    The "what about the kids" stuff is nonsense. You could say the same thing about pain killers or any other prescription drugs. It's up to the parents to be good parents, not the medical/scientific community to halt the evolution of modern medicine and sports rehabilitation.

    Brady will ABSOLUTELY be using HGH during his rehabilitation, and the NFL will without a doubt sweep it under the rug. Same thing with any other big name player who I would bet my house used it for recovery. (Palmer, Mcnabb, T.O, maybe even Manning).
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    Re: Make injury exemptions for HGH.

    I don't get this, from what I've heard the usual recovery time for a torn ACL is 8 months, that puts it around the beginning of May, then he'll have 4 months to get ready for the season. Why would he need to take HGH?
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