Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by Seneschal2, Mar 27, 2009.
Also of note, a sleeper I like:
I had the Pats taking Hill at #89 in my latest mock from earlier today. I think that Hill and Chris Baker from Hampton will go reasonably high, probably 3rd round, due to their size/athleticism and the demand for guys that can play 3-4 DT.
I so hope Delmas lasts to 47. My biggest fear is Atlanta taking him at 24, or possibly Baltimore at 26. Otherwise he should at least last until 34. 47 is a much bigger stretch.
if we get him, it will be at 34. your right, 47 he'll be gone.
If you had to choose between Eric Wood and Delmas, who would you pick? Word on the street is, it may take an early 2nd to get them.
Delmas, hands down. Bigger need is at S, and I think Delmas will be a Polamalu kind of impact player.
I think if we're going to pull the trigger on an OLB we gotta do it in Round One, cause this kid isn't slipping to 47. I have a funny feeling he's going to be a star.
I'm OK with Barwin at 23 and Delmas at 34. Quite OK with it.
I am glad these guys got their eye on Delmas. Like a few of you here. I got a good feeling about him. I'm also warming up to Alphonso Smith who I wasn't too high on with a first round pick. I'd gladly take him with 58 if he is available.
I'm not a fan of spending a day 1 pick on a CB. But Alphonso Smith at 58 would be highway robbery.
My bad, I was thinking Will Moore at 58 since he has been falling down some on draft boards. You are right he would be highway robbery.
I understand that safety is a need position for the Patriots and Delmas is believed to be the best safety in the draft. How does his play compare against current NFL players at the same position?
I watched Western Michigan vs Rice in the bowl game and I was more impressed with the guy Delmas went against (James Casey). I don't know anything about scouting players so I am just trying to understand the hype.
I can't exactly claim to be an expert, but what I've seen of Delmas he brings a lot of physicality to the game, a bit like Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu. It's a stretch to compare any college player to those guys, but stylistically he has the same kind of approach. He was ticked off at the Senior Bowl because they weren't allow to tackle in practice. He likes to hit people. He has good coverage ability and nice hands, but his mentality seems more SS than FS to me.
One of the raps on Delmas is that he sometimes takes the wrong angle and overcommits. This is probably coachable. There were a few plays in the bowl game where Casey embarassed him. But Casey is a pretty impressive prospect in his own right - I had Delmas at #47 and Casey at #58 for us in my last mock.
Two good players too look at. I think that both could help most clubs. It appears Pat's are trying to ensure that if they do pick a db at 34, they have looked closely at all value players. Several similar types as far as grades.Belichick puts emphasis on fluidity of hips.Being able to adjust body to get into routes. Samuel was great in that area. Alphonso Smith appears to have the best control of all cb's. He is short. Delmas went from unknown to the top safety on most boards. That could be a sign that this position is weak, and he is interesting. Personally I don't see him as a Bob Sanders.Needs time to play with elite talent before I am convinced. I still like Will Moore. We really need a big kid that can stick -also Moore has rare hands for a ss. I really think the Missouri defensive schemes did not help him develop. A good nfl secondary coach can teach him what he needs to know. He is very gifted. Brian Dawkins?
Thank you for the detailed response.
The guy who looked very good against the run and decent against the pass at the Senior Bowl was Ellis Lankster. Unfortunately he is known to be a turd.
I agree with you about Moore. I think we could turn him into one of the best Blitzing safties in the NFL. He reminds me alot of Adrian Wilson of the Cards. He plays great against the run and has good hands and ball skils.
I think Adrian Wilson is a much better comparison for William Moore than is Brian Dawkins. Moore has terrific size. Im just not sure about his coverage ability.
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