No disrespect taken. One of the things that grieves me the most on religious discussions is the glut of bad poster boys claiming to be religious...his severe anger management problems nauseate me - do I need to quote what Scripture says about anger? There are believers that make honest mistakes, but he made choices that were evil if a court proves what I think happened. History has an abundance of people claiming to be righteous while killing, starting wars, etc....some are just wicked, others are misled, some are immature believers. My point is after you peel layer by layer, the number of truly religious people out there is small. The population of questionable believers is probably larger than the real believers and do a lot of harm by both their deeds and deplorable influence.