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    Rand Paul: UN has secret plot to ‘CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL’ of America’s guns | The Raw Story

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Saturday warned President Barack Obama was working on behalf of “anti-American globalists” in the United Nations who were plotting against the U.S. Constitution.

    In a fundraising email sent on behalf of the National Association on Gun Rights, Paul alleged the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty was a secret plot to completely disarm American civilians.

    “Ultimately, UN bureaucrats will stop at nothing to register, ban and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like YOU,” Paul wrote. “So far, the gun-grabbers have successfully kept many of their schemes under wraps. But looking at previous attempts by the UN to pass global gun control, you and I can get a good idea of what’s likely in the works.”

    Paul said the United Nations would “CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL” of civilian firearms in the United States and ban the sale of all semi-automatic weapons. He also alleged the United Nations was controlled by “petty dictators and one-world socialists” who were plotting to usurp American sovereignty.
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    Thank God for my 3D copier:rolleyes:
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    Stupid thing for Paul to say ... the UN cannot usurp the USA Constitution. This idea has been bantered about for a while now ... all it does is rev up his base. Other than that is just hot air ...... If he wants to be taken seriously he needs to moderate a bit. If he's just trying to get power and $$$ he's getting good at the game.
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    PF, maybe you should dig a ditch in your backyard and get a lead box that you can hide some guns in, just in case the black helicopters land in your yard and take the gun you keep under your pillow. It could happen any day. You know those socialists. Wake up tomorrow morning, and you'll probably fine a UN soldier at your door asking for your guns and ammo.
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    My grandfather tried that in Germany in the 30's but it didn't work because the sheep thought it could never happen in a civilized country.


    Our founders understood that there were always totalitarians around, many Americans like have forgotten/never understood this. as Jefferson said "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance".

    More Jefferson that goes over the head of libs:

    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
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    Actually, a handy counterbalance to the notion that some gun laws will change how many innocents get killed by guns
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    Actually no it isn't. As a matter of fact, Rants like this from Rand will no doubt sell even more guns for the manufacturers which means more innocent loved ones will die by their own weapons they got to fend off the "tyranny". There is no moral or any other kind of equivalence.
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    Sounds naive........because it is
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    Write back when we have a Hitler in office. Until then, Rand and the like are just loonies with their paranoia. I'm as liberal as you get, and I don't give a damn about who has guns. But, if we're going to make guns widely available, let's do what we can to make sure that known criminals and the very mentally ill don't have them

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    Sad when the Hitler card gets played .. not the first and won't be the last.
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    Yes.....make laws, and criminals won't have guns

    Indeed, you are as liberal as you get
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    The UN can have any agenda it pleases....Americans see that organization as a joke. Maybe we should just take over the UN and run it the right way....the American way.:rolleyes:

    Thomas Jefferson sure had it right PF13! But I also believe all Americans agree with the above statement and that it applies to everything and everyone in this nation. I know all our member agree with it.

    We know what's best for we the people and we shall never allow our gov't to decide that for us.
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    Most criminals engage in crimes by the degree of safety. They prefer shoplifting to stealing car radios, because the sentences are less. Likewise they prefer stealing radios to breaking into homes, and breaking into homes to armed robberies. They are not interested in going to jail. In MA, there are severe penalties for having illegal possession of a gun; therefore, most criminals do not carry guns. Gun laws won't stop pre-meditated crimes, but they certainly discourage a lot of crime. Most criminals are not out to hurt other people; they are simply out to get what they need -- drugs, money, etc.
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    Re: Re: Loony tunes

    Define criminal. From the view of the state during a review of a request to purchase. Does a one time offender (shoplifting as teenager) get denied? Do they get denied at twenty three but approved at fifty? What qualifies one add mentally ill? Who reports to the state and why wouldn't it be a breech of patient privileges? Why should I have to pay the (nanny) state to pursue something constitutionally proclaimed as a given right? So it's a right assuming I can pay the States take? More "control" means more "pork" jobs, more imbiciles eager to prove they have granted authority to screw up your day (rmv, tsa, etc), more fees to cover the paychecks said imbiciles are drawing.

    I am not saying any Joe Shmoe should be able to walk into a store and grab a fire arm. However, the last thing we need is this failed government trying to dictate anything.
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    LOL.....it's that simple, huh?

    understanding rather than condemning......yup.....as liberal as it gets
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    Well I could have used Communist Russia, China, PRNK, Cambodia, Cuba or any number of other progressive countries with strict gun control laws, same difference.

    See the real danger to the safety of a group of people isn't individual criminals but governments all the really big time mass murders were committed by governments against disarmed citizens.

    Our founding fathers were aware of this and hence the Second Amendment to the constitution.
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    Our gun control laws are far from strict. I can go buy enough guns and ammo to supply an army if I want to and there are plenty of places I can do it without even being checked to see if I'm a convicted felon, a deranged escapee from a mental hospital or if I'm a Muhammad Atta.....and you don't want anyone to do anything about that little loophole.
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    Pay attention the US is trying to shovel through a UN arm control treaty that would undermine our Second Amendment rights. The administration supports these efforts to try to get around internal support for the Second Amendment.

    The conversation isn''t about current US gun laws.

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