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  1. Harry Boy

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    LOONS MADE HER:

    Dear Sarah
    So long Sarah, you drove them all nuts for a couple of years especially these partisan bastards, good luck you won't have to worry about the democrats going through your rubbish bags on the next election or that creep Letterman calling your daughters whores, run to the bank with your money that the left wing media made for you then go fishing.
    Your Friend
    Harry

    These are the people that made Sarah a Billionaire:
    Sarah Palin: MSNBC's Obsession With Her - The Hollywood Reporter
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    That's a little disingenious, Harry. The "Left Wing" may have wasted some ink and some time on Sarah, sure, but it was "Right Wing" loons like you who actually lined her pockets with silver.

    "We" didn't send her campaign money, buy her books, watch her shows, pay to get our pictures taken with her, or put up cold hard cash to see her speak.

    Your guys did that all by themselves.

    So spin it whatever way you want - either she took you or we did - but the bottom line is, you got taken.
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    #54 Jersey

    I actually do think Harry has something of a point. If the left didn't loathe her so much (and make their loathing so well known), the right probably would have dismissed her long ago. In this political climate, it actually makes some sense.

    Think of the way the right circled the wagons around Bush for many years.
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    There are plenty of folks on the right the left can loathe -- I think it's irrelevant unless a substantial # of folks on the right truly support the person. That goes for Palin, and it goes for Bush.
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    So much in this post is amusing.

    First, there's harry's ongoing obsession. (Cue the "I'm just stuck reading this stuff on drudge and have no option but to start a new thread every time I read something about her, birthers, Muslims or black criminals.)

    Second is the hypocrisy in harry calling anybody else a "partisan bastard."

    Third is the idea that it's some kind of badge of honor to have the other side dislike you if you're on the right, but if you're on the left, it makes you divisive, partisan, blah blah blah. By harry's standards, Obama should be lauded because of the right's hatred for him.

    Fourth is the support the right gives to Palin's daughter, apparently because she has family around her. Where's that support for teenage moms who don't have supportive families? They can deny it all they want, but I firmly believe we would have heard a very different narrative (from both sides) had it been an unwed black daughter paraded around during the election.

    -------------------------------

    Not as amusing: When did Letterman call her daughters whores? Specifics, please, harry.
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    So you're saying that the right merely liked her because the left did not?

    How partisan is that, for cryin out loud???

    It doesn't say much for the ability of the right to be able to size up a candidate and decide for themselves how intelligent or unintelligent he or she may be, does it?

    All the left was trying to do was point out the truth - which was right there for anyone and everyone to see.

    It's sure not their fault if it took some people years to figure it out for themselves.

    The right shoulda listened in the first place and saved themselves some time, some money and more than a little embarassment.
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    If she was a smart person with good ideas and a firm grasp of history, she'd be a very powerful candidate. But she isnt any of those things, and she never was.
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    #54 Jersey

    I think it was at least part of her staying power. I'm thinking they saw it this way; if the left hates her so much, she must be doing something right. It's very partisan. Now realize that this sort of thinking happens on both sides of the aisle, and you see we've got real problems in Washington and on Main Street. We're focused very much on the wrong things.

    I think, for most Americans, the candidate themselves don't matter. The only thing that matters is the letter between the parentheses. I think it's safe to say that most Americans regard politicians as commodities these days.

    Not just the left. I think a lot of Americans saw pretty quickly that she was pretty shallow. I even remember a lot of Republicans backing away from the table before the 2008 elections. Most libertarian types I know never trusted her either. Her rise is an enigma to a lot of people.

    Agreed.
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    As I said to Mrs P, I think people may have started liking her for myriad reasons, but part of her staying power definitely had something to do with how much the left loathes her.
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    I'm not denying that, Nikolai...what I'm saying is that the left did not give her the money which made her rich today. That's on the right. They were the ones who supported her, sent her checks, bought her books, paid to see her speak and paid to get their pictures taken with her.

    If, indeed, the left was responsible for that because the right simply wanted to do what the left did not want them to do (ie: support Palin) then the left actually succeeded in something, didn't they?

    All that time and money and effort could have gone into finding a suitable candidate instead of supporting an ill-suited one. All the disharmony and dischord which now fills the Republican party might have been avoided.

    Maybe the left didn't loathe her and never feared her at all - just like we've been saying for 3 years now - maybe we just saw her for what she was, which was smoke and illusion.

    However, maybe if the left was devious enough and clever enough, maybe they also saw what was happening and consciously (or unconsciously) decided to deliberately contribute to the fracturing of their rival, the "right," by keeping Sarah in the news, knowing full well that no one would actually examine her intelligence or her motives because they were too busy trying to prove to the left that they were, indeed, "right," in their choice of Sarah Palin.

    Whether it was by design or accident the end result is the same. The right wasted precious resources on a loser and now are left, with an election rapidly approaching, without a strong candidate.
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    I can agree with some of this. Though I do disagree that the left had some loathing for her, and I'm not buying into the idea of a grand left wing conspiracy. ;) I'm not on the left, but even I cringe at the thought of listening to her sound bites and such.

    I have a serious question for you. Does the left really like Pelosi? Does the fact that she drives righties crazy endear her more to the left?
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    No, I don't actually buy into it, either...but then again, I almost never put much faith in conspiracy theories. You have to admit, though, it's really devious, if that's what it is.


    I can't speak for the left. I am only one person and my opinions are my own and not necessarily that of any one political party. I think you can tell from the votes a few weeks ago for minority speaker that the party is kinda divided on her, though.

    Personally speaking, I don't like her all that much. I admire her for what she's done and the way she's done it. She waited until her family (5 children) was pretty much grown before entering big-time politics. She seldom uses them as political fodder. In fact, I don't think she ever has, but I can't swear by it. I don't remember hearing her ever use them as examples or as a bragging tool, however, and in this day and age that's to be commended, I think.

    For all that Harry insists she's an ugly old bat, she's always well put together. Her clothes are age appropriate. She's neat and clean and her hair and make up are usually flawless. She's not out to impress people with her looks and she's not let herself fall to seed, either. Maybe only an old lady can appreciate how difficult that can be day after day after day. :)

    She's articulate and intelligent and consistant. I think she's a bit outspoken in her beliefs, but that might be just me. I see no reason to alienate whole groups of people with strident insistance when a soft spoken concilatory tone will work better - and it usually would but she seldom uses it.

    She's sometimes a bit too "left," for me, but again, that's just me.

    The fact that she drives "righties" crazy is a minus for me. I don't want to drive anyone crazy, I really don't. I think when you start really irritating the other side, you've lost whatever ground you might have been holding. I'm not a confrontational type of person unless it's my last resort. If you are, indeed, correct in your beliefs, there are so many other ways to convince people to see things your way that it seems cheap to simply try to browbeat them by virtue of the fact you can be really obnoxious sometimes.
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    Still waiting for the Letterman "quote", harry...
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    Harry Boy ... come on now ... this is "Being a Liberal 101"

    Rule 3 section A says: "Seek out those you find repulsive, those who are not liberals which is the only way every human should live their life. Insult them, degrade them, de-humanize them and pat yourself on the back for living a good, wholesome liberal life of loving, sharing, and kindness."
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    That's at least as much out of the righty handbook, icy, particularly the religious right / moral majority / whatever you want to call them (or they want to call themselves)
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    The Loons panicked when they saw the standing ovations for just walking onto a stage, if she had been a democrat if she had been one of them they would have canonized her she would have been their "Joan Of Arc, she scared them so much they couldn't stop talking about her, MSNBC was the worst it's hard to imagine now what they will do without her.

    Her enemys (Loons) made her bigger than Elvis, when the UFO's finally land the first words they say will be "WE WANT SEE SARAH"

    :bricks:
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    who was giving this zero the standing ovations, harry?
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    Something about a ballplayer knocking her up, google it.
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    No, you're the one making the claim, harry. Show us where he called any of her daughters "whores"... or are you just making more stuff up? ("Partisan bastards," you say... too funny)
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    No ... not really ... the religious right thinks they can make the world a better place if everyone would just follow God's will. In any case ... i'd rather be the screwed up, imperfect human somewhere in the middle of those groups. ;):D
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    I'm not sticking up for Harry here or Palin for that matter but:


    That's a pretty strong inference as far as I'm concerned. If you remember this wasn't long after Spitzer was exposed for his relationship with a hooker. Now how does Bristol Palin become part of that (joke) equation in any way shape or form? Here's how (and I don't think I'm going out too much of a limb here). Any single girls that get pregnant traditionally, in some circle at least, have been labeled promiscuous at a minimum but just as often whores. Most of us know that just isn’t true 99.9% of the time and its wrong and mean spirited to assume otherwise. See the connection? If Spitzer simply had a reputation for going after single girls then there might….might, be a joke to connect and it might even be on Spitzer. I think Letterman tried to get to Sarah at the expense of Bristol and at the same time get his dig in at Spitzer….two for the price of one. Am I missing something?
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    Nope. You got bingo.

    Going after Sarah is one thing. Cheap shotting her daughters goes way over the line.
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    Letterman is just another piece of show biz sh!t, he himself has the morals of a friggin alley cat, Letterman recieved death threats from Fathers all across America, the whores and whore mongers in the entertainment world loved it though.
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    Right, but following god's will is how they think every human should live and, to them, a good, wholesome life of loving, sharing, and kindness -- as you put it.

    But they're at least as hypocritical (I'd say moreso, given the example they pretend to follow and want others to adhere to) and insulting, de-humanizing, etc.


    agreed. at least we acknowledge our shortcomings, and when we fail we're generally not the hypocrites like the many "family values" pubbies who say one thing and then are just as much a womanizer as any dem politician
    doesn't make it any better (or worse) that their way is cloaked in religion.
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    He as much called her a whore with the Spitzer joke. If you're splitting hairs then there is no direct quote. if you're being honest then you have to admit that he did...practically speaking anyway.
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    I happen to think you're reading too much into it, but it's not an unreasonable inference. I don't think anybody thought Palin was a call girl.

    I do think it was a joke aimed at both Spitzer and the Palins, though -- without question.

    But that's very different than calling her one, which is what harry claimed. And harry doesn't care about facts, because Palin's a Republican and he thinks Letterman is a librul (Letterman may be, but I'm not aware of his politics -- I'm skeptical harry is, either -- he just takes a comedian's joke as evidence of what his policital leanings must be)


    see above -- I don't think the difference b/t the joke and calling somebody a "whore" is splitting hairs
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    I'd be far more inclined to agree if Palin and the McCain campaign hadn't turned her daughter into political prop.
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    David Letterman called Sarah Palins daughter a whore, Harry News reporter gets exclusive scoop, you won't hear this anywhere else all the other big media doesn't dare to report it for fear of threats directed at Letterman who is admired by cross dressers, whore's and animal molesters throughout the world of show business.

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