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  1. Gainzo

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    I can't believe anyone lives in Australia with these outrageous taxes.

    Individual income tax rates

    Not to mention the unemployment rate:

    Economy adding 1200 jobs a day

    Forgot about religion in Australian public schools. What would the bible bashers here do for this kind of access?

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/state-to-increase-funds-for-christian-classes-20110407-1d698.html

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    Are your comments "tongue-in-cheek"? Because by my calculations, the Australian tax rate is about the same as that in the United States.

    I calculated how much federal taxes I'd have to pay on my salary in Australia and it came out to almost exactly what I paid in all forms of federal taxes last year (income tax, social security and medicare).

    Can you state your persective on the relationship between Australia's tax rates and their unemployment rate?

    In my eyes, their tax rates are similar to that in the US, but the economic picture in Australia is much brighter than ours and Europe. I highly doubt their unemployment rate is closely related to their federal tax structure. Economies are so complex that we'd need to consider everything, and that would be a long, LONG list of factors.

    -Interest Rates
    -Tariffs in imports
    -population growth
    -Age of population
    -Is their economy self-sustaining?
    -Home prices relative to income
    -Supply of domestic natural resources

    To name but a few...the list would probably include hundreds of other factors, so you opening post is rather vague and pointless.
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    My comments are about a Country that has a high tax rate, plenty of wealthy people, and takes care of the "poor"

    -Interest Rates - Low right now
    -Tariffs in imports - Nope
    -population growth - big
    -Age of population - Old
    -Is their economy self-sustaining? - Yes
    -Home prices relative to income - Loaded question
    -Supply of domestic natural resources* - plenty

    *Apart from all the floods and stuff
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    But their tax rates are about the same as we have in the USA....

    Someone making $100,000 in Australia would pay about $25k or 25% in federal taxes. A person making the same amount would pay about $25k in the US as well (including all federal taxes).

    Take a look at Australia's population and compare it to ours. Then look at poverty as a percent of their population and compare it to ours. Then we need to look at IMMIGRATION...and compare the US to Australia...it's just not as simple as you propose.
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    I believe Australia has a population of around 23 million. A little bit bigger than New York State and a little bit smaller than Texas. Why does Australia run so well and all of our 50 states suck? At least the state I live in is doing well.
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    Income tax rates are one thing, but overall tax burden is another. The flip to this simplistic point would be to post high tax rates from a country that is in shambles. I guess that would probalby be all of western europe. :D
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    While you're at it compare what they pay out of pocket for medical insurance (nothing) and how much vacation time they are guarenteed (4 weeks minimum) and how many weeks of paid maternity/paternity leave they get (18 weeks) and how their social security program works. Also check out how many of their universities are state supported (all but one.) Compare their expected life span with ours. (Their's is higher.) Compare their maternal/infant death rate with ours. (Ours is higher.)

    Immigrants make up 12.81% of the US population.
    Immigrants make up 19.93% of Australia's popullation.

    List of countries by foreign-born population in 2005 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It all looks pretty simple to me.

    Plus, you don't hear much about Australians whining about how much income tax they're paying.

    Mostly you hear them talk about how happy they are.
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    These rates are meaningless. If you want to make a comparison you should include the following.

    Property tax? Do they have them?
    State Taxes? Do they have them?
    Sales Taxes? Do they have them?
    Excise Taxes? Do they have them?
    Municipal Taxes? Do they have them?
    County Taxes? Do they have them?

    What is the National debt of Australia relative of GDP?

    What is Budget deficit of Australia relative to revenue?
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    -Property Tax - Yes
    -State Taxes - Yes
    -Sales Taxes -Yes, GST Australia | Everything You Need to Know
    -Excise Taxes - Yes, booze, smokes, gasoline, etc
    -Municipal Taxes - No, as everything is covered by the States then the Feds
    -County Taxes - No, as Australia doesn't have Counties

    GDP was $1.2 trillion in 2009, the Budget deficit was $44 Billion.

    For more on the Aussie budget and how it is in a much better place than ours check out this: Budget 2010 | Federal Budget 10 - Australia Budget | The Australian
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    You have to be careful when comparing infant mortality rates. Not everyone reports them in the same way.

    Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage

    Those differences in how infant mortality are calculated also affect life expectancy figures.

    You do hear them raising questions about immigration, though.

    Anti-immigration politician returns to forefront of Australian politics - Telegraph

    I came across this (which I thought this was an interesting read) and it made me think of this thread.

    How I lost faith in multiculturalism | The Australian

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  11. Gainzo

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    Pauline Hanson is Australia's Michelle Bachmann. By that I mean batcrap crazy.

    That op-ed piece is bunk. Do you know why all the people (hardly any) coming from the North are muslims? Its because Indonesia is the Country that is North of Australia. The guy who wrote that piece of garbage needs a good kick in the arse.
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    How can a "Bachmann" rise to prominence in the utopia of Australia?

    Given your feeble response to what was a thoughtful article by someone who actually was born in and lives in Australia, I take it that you did not read it.
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    She tried and failed..........again
    Greens wave Pauline Hanson to exit stage right | The Australian
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    I guess that makes here more of an "Angle" than a "Bachmann" then.
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    Not for nothing but Australia elects plenty of crazy people as there are a crapload of political parties. On the plus side a lot of those parties band together on legislation (unlike here).

    BTW: I have lived in Australia.

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