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    Okay ... a divergence from the usual political bantering.

    How about this direction the Navy is taking? This baby did like 50mph for 4-hours.

    They make these in Harry-Land up in Maine.

    I think all 4 branches of the military need to divert most of their funding for more usefull equipment - stuff that can be used against smaller forces which is what we are up against most of the time. Small well trained and expertly prepared forces are a major challenge militarily. We still have problems with a few dozen people with ied's, AK-47's, grenade launchers and donkeys.

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    Yeah baby!!!!!! Take that anyone thinking of causing us harm!! :D Now I don't mind my tax dollars spent on pieces of art like that! At least a few anyway!

    I wish they posted a video of the ship blowing up a couple of pirate boats....
     
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    History repeating itself...going back to what the smaller ships were originally used for before the 50s and 60s: escort, protection, chase, hunting, access to small ports etc.
     
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    Littoral Combat Ships have been on the drawing board for a while.. in fact I know a guy who teaches a course on them at the Navy War College in Newport... not sure how he does it, as much of this is conceptual..

    A good source for this stuff is:

    Littoral Combat Ship

    This is a more specific article showing the planned impact of these ships..

    Littoral Combat Ship (LCS)
     
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    There is enough information that you can go beyond a concept to teaching classes...especially if you showcase the direct descendants of it like the pre-Cold War era ships and the current ships.
     
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    He is a former masters level educated commercial fisherman... not really a military man... not contesting what can be taught, but the Navy War College is fairly high level and high tech.. he has been doing it almost since the inception of this program. From what I understand he is focusing on navigation in "shallow waters"...
     
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    "shallow waters" fits right in as that's where littoral in littoral combat ship comes from.

    the school is high level and high tech but there is also a huge focus on tactics and operation and if they are going to be having a ship program that operates in an area that has been neglected by most of the navy for well over a century it makes sense to turn to someone with an education and experience operating vessels in that area of sea...
     
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    Are your comments contradictory, thought you wanted us out of wars??? And weren't looking for the Cindy Sheehans of the world.

    They don't launch often.. once in Feb '08 and most recently Sept. '08, prior to that was June of '05... a little hyperbole to start the morning???..
     
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    Hyperbole is his middle name.
     
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    Very cool toy. It would be even cooler if a millionaire was buying it to play with...

    "Early cost estimates for Littoral Combat Ships were about $220 million apiece, but costs spiraled because of the Navy's requirements and its desire to expedite construction. The cost of the ships is capped at $460 million apiece, starting in the new fiscal year.

    While they're fast, they aren't necessarily the fastest military ships afloat. The Navy used to have missile-equipped hydrofoils and the Marines' air-cushioned landing craft is capable of similar speeds, Wertheim said. And smaller ships are capable of higher speeds."


    But never mind that.

    Anyone know what the range of this hot rod is?
     
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    What does hyperbole mean?
     
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    Extravagant exaggeration... aka lying in a grandiose scale.
     
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    So Harry ... you spoliate lately ?:p:p:p
     
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    So Harry ... you spoliate lately ?:p:p:p
     
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    Thank God they finally got around to building coast guard cutters for the Navy... you guys do realize we've had a whole military service devoted to "littoral warfare" since the 1700s right?

    Granted, attaching the USCG to the Navy in time of war, while practical, does not allow for all the cool new junk on the cool new boat... but in terms of whether you can ping a pirate with one, I'm thinkin' yeah, not a problem.

    Eh well. Whatever the military wants, I guess. Freedom's not free, and Independence comes with strings attached, or something like that ;)

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    Huge difference between the lightly armed cutters and those ships. Missions aren't even close :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah but of course... we need another shallow-water navy :rolleyes:

    Meanwhile, of course, the USCG wanted to develop a "next generation" of vessels... wait for it... The "Deepwater Project."

    From what I can tell we're bolting together fastship technology with the need for landing craft, a helicopter carrier, and of course a shallow draft so it can work off the coast... and getting excited about it.

    Price tag is what again (thus far)?

    PFnV
     

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