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  1. scout

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    This would be interesting if he decides to run as an Independent. I would like to see him do well. Its exactly what we need in this country. Maybe it generates more interest down the road.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442698/
     
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    I don't like Lieberman much, but I'd like to see an Independent win; it would give legitimacy to something other than the Dems and GOP.
     
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    Hell No !!!

    Lieberman is not a legitimate alternative, he never has been. All he would end up doing is cost us votes and maybe another election, but then again what do you expect from Mr. Establishment?
     
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    More than likely would hurt Democrats but who knows. I don't have a problem with him and would consider voting for him despite my image of him with Gore :eek:
     
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    Lieberman has never been a Democrat. Good to see he's finally being honest with himself.
     
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    I think Lieberman has dug his own grave, his arrogance, single focus and disregard for the principles of his party and the people who voted him in will lead to his demise.
     
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    Leiberperson is my kinda Dem, one interested in the saftey of his country and in the well-being of the entire populace, not just special interests. Is he perfect? Hell no. But he's better than the vast majority and by a long shot. Who's a better candidate than he?

    Yes, I'll first have to 'forgive' him for his party pandering when he ran with algore.
     
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    Honestly, I don't see a lot of "middle America" voting for a Jewish president. I know they said that about Kennedy and Catholics, but he was the major exception to the rule (and there hasn't been a non-protestant President since).
     
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    Funny ... I have just the opposite perspective.

    Lieberman has interest in the well-being not of the entire populace, but of one person: Lieberman.

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    I hadn't thought of that. Good point.
     
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    Interesting. So, what if Lieberman runs on a very conservative platform as an Independent, the Republican opponent is Guiliani, and the Democrat is Clinton. Would Lieberman get the Christian Right vote?
     
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    I think he well might
     
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    It's also worth noting that Lieberman did well among blacks when he ran with Gore. It's also worth noting that Lieberman isn't conservative in everything. I think he's for hate crime legislation, gay rights, and abortion rights.
     
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    Your right and thats why he's going nowhere.
     
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    Yes, because we'd never have a president who favors all those things... except for the last one we had.
     
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    Hate crime legislation is another mistake - If I assault you, the reasons make no difference (barring self defense, of course). A crime is a crime.
     
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    Then why the difference between first degree murder (purposeful, premeditated) and second degree murder (purposeful, not premeditated)?
     
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    I agree. IMHO murder falls into 3 categories:

    Premeditated - Planned/Intentional

    Murder - Unintentional, most likely due to negligence, or "Crime of Passion"

    Self Defense


    I would also like to see "Not guilty by reason of insanity" dropped permanently in favor of "Guilty by reason of insanity".
     
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    But you're not supporting your own argument. If the only difference between premeditated murder or murder as a "crime of passion" is the person's state of mind (rather than the act), doesn't that open the door to examining the perpetrator's state of mind in other cases, like with hate crime laws?

    I think I'm actually against hate crimes laws, but that one thing has made me less than 100% comfortable with my opposition.
     
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    Why would you be against hate crimes laws? They're designed to aid in prosecuting violent criminals who want to deprive a group of its civil rights. Why are conservatives taking the criminal's side here? Hate crimes legislation is simply another tool to aid prosecutors in going after violent people. FYI, the hate crime legislation would also protect heterosexuals and white people from hate crimes.
     

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