Welcome to PatsFans.com

Liberty under siege

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by Patters, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,004
    Likes Received:
    322
    Ratings:
    +594 / 24 / -19

    More freedom fries anyone?

    ThinkProgress

    House Rejects Tea Party Effort To Screw Up Light Bulbs | Tea Party conservatives fell far short of the two-thirds majority required to pass Rep. Joe Barton’s (R-TX) BULB Act, which would have revoked lighting efficiency standards that are already reducing pollution, creating jobs, and spurring technological innovation. The 233 to 193 vote, although a majority, rejected the bill because it was being considered under suspension rules that allowed Republicans to avoid regular order. The five Democrats who voted in favor of this Republican joke were conservative Reps. Dan Boren (D-OK), Jerry Costello (D-IL), Jim Matheson (D-UT), Colin Peterson (D-MN), and Nick Rahall (D-WV). Ten Republicans voted against their party and for clean energy manufacturing, and one voted present.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2011
  2. The Brandon Five

    The Brandon Five Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,032
    Likes Received:
    167
    Ratings:
    +514 / 9 / -4

    #75 Jersey

    How do lighting efficiency standards create jobs?
     
  3. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    25,623
    Likes Received:
    172
    Ratings:
    +466 / 12 / -14

    Incandescent bulbs made in USA, florescent bulbs made in China. Jobs for China not in US to put toxic product in our houses, great.
     
  4. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    27,329
    Likes Received:
    200
    Ratings:
    +573 / 6 / -24

    #18 Jersey

    Light bulbs = Freedom??

    NOT!!!

    This is really a who gives a flyin phukkk topic....
     
  5. jcdavey

    jcdavey In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,664
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    freedom bulbs lol
     
  6. mcgraw_wv

    mcgraw_wv In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Messages:
    2,257
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    Honestly... In real practice, these new bulbs are a PURE waste of money.

    First off, if we had a bulb make it the 10 years without replacing I would be happy, but they burn out just as fast as the other ones... so while we do have them all over our house, we relace them at the same intervals as the other ones, only now I'm spending 4 - 8 times more for the bulbs.

    I can't help but assume these standards are nothing but a shot in the Lighting industry lobbied for from congress under the guise of green.
     
  7. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,004
    Likes Received:
    322
    Ratings:
    +594 / 24 / -19

    At least in MA, you can occasionally find these bulbs at similar prices to regular name-brand bulbs and they last a lot longer. In my building, where we run hallway lights 24/7, we used to replace the bulbs every couple of weeks. Now we replace them every couple of months. But, there do seem to be some brands that last longer than others.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2011
  8. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    25,623
    Likes Received:
    172
    Ratings:
    +466 / 12 / -14

    They contain Mercury, they are toxic when they break.
     
  9. PatsWSB47

    PatsWSB47 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Messages:
    8,011
    Likes Received:
    106
    Ratings:
    +252 / 1 / -0

    #12 Jersey

    mercury is good for you:p
     
  10. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,626
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -1

    #75 Jersey

    MMMmmmmm...Merrrrrrrcury......
     
  11. Harry Boy

    Harry Boy Look Up, It's Amazing PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Messages:
    41,741
    Likes Received:
    279
    Ratings:
    +1,150 / 5 / -10

    When I'm drinking I use Kerosine lamps, it reminds me of "the good old days" I make shadow pictures of people having sex on the walls with my fingers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2011
  12. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    25,623
    Likes Received:
    172
    Ratings:
    +466 / 12 / -14

    J Immelt who is one of Obozo's economic advisors and the head of GE closed a couple of Incandescent light bulbs plants in the US and GE is making thier toxic bulbs (which produce annoying light) in China and essentially congress banned consumers from purchasing a product built in the USA for a product from China that people don't want.

    Anyone think that is odd?

    BTW condemn Bush since this folly started under his watch.
     
  13. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

    Mrs.PatsFanInVa PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    16,430
    Likes Received:
    411
    Ratings:
    +789 / 14 / -6

    #24 Jersey

    I might....once I figure out what is it you're trying to say.
     
  14. Gainzo

    Gainzo In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2007
    Messages:
    2,415
    Likes Received:
    43
    Ratings:
    +103 / 2 / -3

    #11 Jersey

    Incandescent bulbs have not been banned. They simply need to be more efficient.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/26/g...-of-incandescent-bulbs.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3

    Doesn't the House have bigger issues to deal with than a law passed 4 years ago?
     
  15. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2005
    Messages:
    25,623
    Likes Received:
    172
    Ratings:
    +466 / 12 / -14

    Jobs sent from US to China:

    Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas

    GE Closes Last Incandescent Light Bulb Plant, Jobs Sent to China - by Kenneth Artz - Environment & Climate News

    US workers sent to unemployment so a more expensive dangerous product can be made in China.

    No wonder unemployment is above 16% when we have politicians with this mindset. Solving imaginary problems with dangerous expensive products.

    BTW if you use a CF bulb in a hallway and keep it on all the time it will last longer if you use it in a domestic setting where it is turned on and off it negatively affects the lifespan of the bulb.

    It is also an inferior product in terms of the light it puts out.
     
  16. Gainzo

    Gainzo In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2007
    Messages:
    2,415
    Likes Received:
    43
    Ratings:
    +103 / 2 / -3

    #11 Jersey

    Are you really complaining about a Corporation laying off 200 employees to move their manufacturing to China? This has nothing to do with incandescent light bulbs and everything to do with GE wanting to pad their bottom line.

    I'm sure you were outraged when Jack Welch canned nearly 100,000 people in the 80's.

    General Electric’s Jack Welch and the corporate plundering of America
     
  17. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    27,329
    Likes Received:
    200
    Ratings:
    +573 / 6 / -24

    #18 Jersey

    That one actually got a chuckle out me...about time JC
     
  18. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    27,329
    Likes Received:
    200
    Ratings:
    +573 / 6 / -24

    #18 Jersey

    Isn't that the stuff they use to make the illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator?

    Hey....there was supposed to be an earth shattering KA-BOOM!:D
     
  19. Gainzo

    Gainzo In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2007
    Messages:
    2,415
    Likes Received:
    43
    Ratings:
    +103 / 2 / -3

    #11 Jersey

    I take it that you are not outraged, like pf13, about this bill?

    I will happily pay $2 for a light bulb that lasts 2 years, and saves $$ on my electric bill, over a bulb that lasts 6 months and costs me a $1.

    I'm still confused why some people are ticked off about a frickin' light bulb bill that was signed in 2007.
     
  20. PatriotsReign

    PatriotsReign Hall of Fame Poster

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    27,329
    Likes Received:
    200
    Ratings:
    +573 / 6 / -24

    #18 Jersey

    Had we known what was coming (worst recession in history), then I'd say it was bad timing because it resulted in job losses.

    I also hate the light the new bulbs give off, but I'll get used to it.
     

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>