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  1. Turd Furguson

    Turd Furguson Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Anyone who believes those animals over in Iraq are "freedom fighters" or were created by Bush are total retards.

    Do you honestly think they were good honest citizens who loved freedom, mom, apple pie and puppy dogs prior to the Iraq war?

    Do you honestly think that most of the insurgents are either foreigners from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Qatar etc... or remnants from the Baath party who wish to remain in power?



    OR are you so blinded by your hatred for the Bush Administration, the troops themselves, the country in general and all things NOT liberal that you can only see what the left's talking points tell you to see?
     
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    Liberal Democrat Whack Jobs (Uncle Teddy Gang)

    These bas tards will babble, splutter, scream and set themselves on fire when the Abba Dabba prison Muslim is shown with Ladies Underwear on his head.
    They all go into a Coma and have to be sedated when "wiretapping a suicide bombers house" is mentioned, but put a picture of some poor slob that the Muslim terrorist dogs have kidnapped and are about to carve his screaming head off and you won't hear a peep from them, they start blubbering about social security or health care.

    Watch these democrat-rats run if someone starts showing photos of 9/11.
     
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    Turd, don't you know your history? They're freedom fighters in the same sense that Reagan meant it when he called the Taliban freedom fighters. If the Republicans can call the Taliban freedom fighters, then I see nothing wrong with calling the insurgents freedom fighters.
     
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    Call them whatever you want, they are still "bloodthirsty savage animals". Have you bothered to look at the photos of the People that "Saddam Gassed", did you see the little dead children still in their mothers arms with vomit all over their faces, these bas tards are animals.

    Saddam used to make parents watch as his "Demented Sadistict Sons" Sodomized little boys and girls.

    Saddam used to have people tied to chairs in the town square nad forced to watch as one of their loved ones was thrown off the roof of a five story building to smash onto the street like a watermelon.

    They found another of Saddams "Mass Graves" this week, the only coverage of this that I could find was on FOX NEWS, but let another Muslim be lead around on a dog leash by an American and watch how fast "Cute Perky Katie" and CBS come out from under their rocks.

    "Liberal Democrats" Sore Losing, Bush Hating Vermin, they will put their own families lives on the line just to "GET BUSH" Rat Skunks.
     
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    Harry, Saddam was very evil. We know that. I don't think this thread is about Bush, but it's good that you keep getting it out of your system. I imagine you must have 100s more repetitive rants left.
     
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    I HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED.

    I just thought of this little one, "Do Liberal Bush Haters Rant" when they are trashing Bush or is that just considered "Common Sense" to the "Lefty's"?
     
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    By last estimate roughly 7% were foreign jihadists. That would make the other 93% Iraqis fighting for their own Iraqi interests- primarily secular Sunni, of course, as they have the most to lose from the Islamic Republic of Iraq.


    Juan Cole is the authority.
     
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    http://telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/23/wirq23.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/23/ixportaltop.html

    Iraqis support attacks on British troops

    By Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
    (Filed: 23/10/2005)


    The poll, undertaken for the Ministry of Defence and seen by The Sunday Telegraph, shows that up to 65 per cent of Iraqi citizens support attacks and fewer than one per cent think Allied military involvement is helping to improve security in their country.

    It demonstrates for the first time the true strength of anti-Western feeling in Iraq after more than two and a half years of bloody occupation.

    The nationwide survey also suggests that the coalition has lost the battle to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, which Tony Blair and George W Bush believed was fundamental to creating a safe and secure country.
     
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    I don't think it's fair to compare the American Freedom Fighters to the Iraqi insurgents. While they have some in common, for instance they both fought against a big, bad military machine; they both used unconventional and widely considered barbaric war tactics; neither received the vast support of the population. But their main objectives differ too much. The Freedom Fighters wanted representative democracy, while the insurgents want Islamic theocracy. The Freedom Fighters did not attack its own people the way the insurgents in Iraq do. Also the Americans in 1770's had no other outlet to protest the British, they were basically prisoners of a far away dictatorship. Meanwhile the insurgents in Iraq have every opportunity to join political parties that want the American occupation to end.
     
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    Don't you know your history? The Taliban/Afghans were fighting the Russians who were attempting to annex their country. The US has no plans to make Iraq a US territory or state.

    Major difference.
     
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    How do you explain the permanent bases then? Im not saying we want an annexed state, but I do think neo-conservatives think we need a permanent presence.

    Not so big a difference really. Both were occupations of failed Islamic states.
     
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    Chevy, don't you know your history. The Russians wanted to install a friendly government in Afghanistan, and get rid of the radical Islamic nuts. The United States wants to do the same in Iraq, not have Saddam or some radical Islamic nuts. Both the Soviets and Americans had native allies. There is no difference between what the U.S. is doing in Iraq and what the Soviets tried to do in Afghanistan.
     
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    Did the Soviets offer free, fair and open elections in Afghanistan? There in lies the difference between an occupying force and a liberating force, and thus the difference in what the Soviets were doing and what the Americans are doing.
     
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    They wouldn't have had they been given the chance. With our backing, Bin Laden and the mooj kicked their butts back to the Soviet border, so its not really a good comparison.


    BTW..PFinME, did you dump the logo in response to your buddy Tobin going to jail or was it something else?
     
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    That is an important difference, and I don't dispute the United States has an advantage in values over those that the Soviet Union held.

    That said, I'm surprised you would favor the U.S. staying out of democratic Iraq. I thought you want us to stay there. As long as we're there, it's hard to say they are free or democratic. My own suspicion is that once we leave, the theocracy will democratically assert control, as they did in Iran, and then we will have an Iran-Iraq axis to contend with.
     
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    I'm very much against the insurgents in this case. They seem to be a mixture of violent criminals, extremists and ex Baathists, who have used the excuse of opposition to the invasion to further their own aims. As others have said, they want to create what most of us see as a vision of hell to live in- either a Saddamesque dictatorship or a nouveau Taliban. I think they have legitimacy that they don't deserve, much in the same way that the IRA were given legitimacy that their attacks on civilians and their extortion rackets didn't deserve. I say that as someone with Irish Nationalist leanings BTW.
     
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    The Soviet Union wasn't looking to install a friendly anything. Their sole purpose was expanding their presence. Had the Afghans been a more socialist-friendly nation, the invasion would have still occurred.

    The US wants more nations to install a system of government like our own - it works, and is for the benefit of all.
     
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    The sign of a true idiot is a person who can't have a discussion, even a divisive one, without making it personal and hurling insults when they're more convenient than facts. That goes for the left and right, and I've seen plenty of that from both sides in my short time on this forum. Let's face it, people have different ideas of what America should be like. I think the fact that people have ideas instead of being apathetic is what makes us all patriots.
     
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    This is pure idealism. To say that we should decide what type of government other nations should pursue always seems to get us into conflict. Particularly when we fail to lead by example, and watch as our own liberties are sacrificed as an end justifies the means strategy.
     
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    stick around awhile, you will find that when you try to have a discussion that people in the reich disagree with, they will eventually label you a keyboard terrorist.
     

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