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    http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=10617012&src=rss/ElectionCoverage

    Look at this gem of liberal anti-Bush bias...

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush ranks as the least popular and most bellicose of the last ten U.S. presidents, according to a new survey.
    Only nine percent of the 662 people polled picked Bush as their favorite among the last 10 presidents. John F. Kennedy topped that part of the survey, with 26 percent, closely followed by Bill Clinton (25 percent) and Ronald Reagan (23 percent).



    OK, now stay with me here. It's the last 10 presidents. Kennedy, Clinton (nice job you Clinton/Manning press ball washers), and Reagan got a total of 74%. Bush got 9% leaving the other 6 presidents to split the remaining 17%.

    Even liberal vicitims of the NEA dominated deteriorating public school system should realize that the remaining 6 guys cannot possibly EACH exceed Bush's 9%. Therefore the entire premise of this stupid and innumerate poll article is wrong. But then facts have never stopped the left or those infected with BDS.
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    Yes, you are clearly right about the numbers and, yes, some of the press is biased against Bush. However, as you are clearly aware, for every Washington Post there is a Fox News and a Rush Limbaugh.
    He also only received 9% to Reagan's 23%. I discount Clinton and Kennedy on the grounds of liberal bias so those numbers were probably fabricated (or whatever- I can't be bothered).
    The same numbers (ratio of popularity between Reagan and Bush) are reflected amongst conservatives in this country and across the world. There are a hell of a lot of people who are pro free market, pro globalisation, pro low taxes etc etc who still would rather have seen Kerry win the last election. THAT is more problematic than what I, Patters or whoever on the liberal spectrum, think and that is why Bush should worry you.
    You want to know why it is a problem? See what happens to your stocks when the rest of the world buys less American products and gives even less support to American foreign policy.Don't fool yourself. This President has contributed to the rest of the world seeing America in a very negative light and I am not talking about the bit that has always hated America, either.
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    Everyone's stocks are making money. American companies not only will continue to succeed but will succeed by even greater margins. Why? Despite creeping govt regulation, Enron scandals and unfair taxation it's still the freeist and least corrupt enterprise zone on this planet. Dream away.

    Disclaimer: I am 20% Internationally invested for portfolio diversity
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    I don't know enough about stocks so I'll take you at your word on that point. I'm still paying off an overdraft, such is the measure of my economic competence, :D or :( as I should really put. BTW, as America contributes so much to the world economy, I have no interest in seeing it fail. My job is Government funded, paid for by taxes, raised partly from people who work for American employers etc etc.
    I accept the point that many reporters are biased, but would argue that Fox, talk radio and so on has a strong influence and bias of its own. I stand by the point about Bush and the negative perception that the world has of this Administration. If he plans to bomb Iran, he really needs to do so with backing from others and/or support from the rest of the world.
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    The article is obviously poorly written. I presume there were two questions. Perhaps something like this: Of the last ten Presidents, who would you say was the best? Of the last 10 Presidents, who would you say was the worst?

    Besides a badly written article, what the hell is National Qualitative Centers? They don't even have a website.
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    Even references to Ken Berwitz are poor to say the least, I am beginning to believe that the Dems needs a couple of folks like Anne Coulter who just say outrageous things with no verification and an attractive face, this survey makes no sense.

    On the other hand no sure how you equate this with liberal MSM press, which is questionable anyways, it seems like an obscure article that had little play.
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    DOH!!!!!!!
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    Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Fox News, Harry Boy ect,ect, they exist and thrive because they are "FREE AMERICA", freedom of speech.

    Freedom Of Speech, Free Press, things that the Liberals are always thumping their chests about, when the College Professors & the College Students hold their "Protests & Marches" they Scream "Freedom Of Speech"

    Limbaugh and the rest are doing the same, "FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS FOR NEO CONS ALSO", is it not?

    Welcome To America.

    Money:
    I am a "Moron" I am a retrired Truck Driver, I am one of those people that they used to start "dumb jokes" off with, "there was this truck driver", well, I have raised four children, many Grandchildren and sit comfortably in my home in Maine watching the tide Ebb & Flow.
    Over the last Forty Years I have owned three homes, a summer home, many new cars, a new motor home and my wife and I now live Comfortably surrounded by all the things I need at my age, I also have a "Nest Egg".

    I accomplished this in "Free Capitalistic America" I saw the Horrors of WWII, I saw "Real Patriotism", later in life I stood in Harvard Sq and watched the "Fonda Gang" that group of "Rotten Pigs" I watched them scream and insult the "Viet Nam Troops" many young men in Cambridge were afraid to leave their home in their Army Uniforms because of these Wretched Filthy Swine.
    Now we have the "Skanky Cindy Sheehans" and the "Fu cking scummy dogs" like Michale Moore making millions from "Bashing America and It's President".

    Politics has always been a "Garbage Business" but todays Liberal Democrats have turned into nothing but a "Hate Filled Cesspool Of Jealous Sore Losing Scum". They are "Hypocrites" if it were that Lying Traitor Kerry that had won the election and had he gone after Saddam and the WMD's the Democrats would be Cheering Him On from the highest rooftops, Howard Dean and Barbara Boxer would have made a CD singing "God Bless America"

    I'm not worried though, America is seeing what the democrats have become, they see that the Liberal Far Left Democrats are also becoming "America's Enemy".

    George Bush, LimBaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Fox News, Bloggers, The Internet, they have turned the Liberal Democrats world upside down.

    The Liberals have always called what the Neo Cons are now doing "Freedom Of Speech" It works for them also. :rocker:
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    As much as I disagree with the content, I agree with your premise. They have captivated America and more than we know take their word as gospel. Time after time I read or hear the talking points spouted by these talking RNC mouthpieces, so much so it colors about everything we are doing in this country right now. They have become the so called, "Main Stream Media."
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    It is the "Other Side Of The Story":
    Now when we hear "Cute Perky Katie" or "CBS" "Tell Us A Story" we can switch the channel and go to "Fox News", there we will hear all the little things that Katie or CBS didn't want to tell us.

    I wish we had Outlets from "The Other Side" when that "Flaming Far Left Democrat" Walter Cronkite was filling us up with his "Liberal Socialist Garbage"
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    Not to mention MSNBC. I actually watched their program Hardball the opther night with Andrea Mitchell filling in, and I have to say that was the worst journalism I've ever seen. She is such a buffoon. She works so hard at trying to be centrist, but her liberal bias comes out clear as day.

    All they ended up doing was criticizing the Iraq withdrawal plan as a political stunt.
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    Historians vs. George W. Bush

    By Robert S. McElvaine

    http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html

    The second most common response from historians, trailing only Nixon, was that the current presidency is the worst in American history. A few examples will serve to provide the flavor of such condemnations.

    “Although previous presidents have led the nation into ill-advised wars, no predecessor managed to turn America into an unprovoked aggressor. No predecessor so thoroughly managed to confirm the impressions of those who already hated America. No predecessor so effectively convinced such a wide range of world opinion that America is an imperialist threat to world peace. I don 't think that you can do much worse than that.â€

    “Bush is horrendous; there is no comparison with previous presidents, most of whom have been bad.â€

    “He is blatantly a puppet for corporate interests, who care only about their own greed and have no sense of civic responsibility or community service. He lies, constantly and often, seemingly without control, and he lied about his invasion into a sovereign country, again for corporate interests; many people have died and been maimed, and that has been lied about too. He grandstands and mugs in a shameful manner, befitting a snake oil salesman, not a statesman. He does not think, process, or speak well, and is emotionally immature due to, among other things, his lack of recovery from substance abuse. The term is "dry drunk". He is an abject embarrassment/pariah overseas; the rest of the world hates him . . . . . He is, by far, the most irresponsible, unethical, inexcusable occupant of our formerly highest office in the land that there has ever been.â€

    “George W. Bush's presidency is the pernicious enemy of American freedom, compassion, and community; of world peace; and of life itself as it has evolved for millennia on large sections of the planet. The worst president ever? Let history judge him.â€

    “This president is unique in his failures.â€
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    The hate america first crowd speaks again.
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    If liberal egghead college professors think he sucks, than he must be doing something right, way to go Mr. President!
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    Gee do you think he is a liberal and maybe has a bias?

    Red State, Blue State
    A Democrat’s Lonely Stand
    By Robert S. McElvaine

    "Well, as it happens, my family is composed of a bunch of “others.†And we’re not “known moderates.†We are (gasp) liberals. Worse yet, we are white liberals. Worst of all, I am a white male liberal. Surely I must be some freak of nature."

    Who would have thought with someone with such a distain for "red staters" would write an "opinion piece" that he and everyone else hates the President. Since this "article" was published originally in the Wash Post where he is REGULARLY published, I guess Zuma is trying to reinforce PWP's point?

    Also from the same article posted by Zuma....the ONE comment from a "pro"-Bush Historian he uses.

    "It may be, as one pro-Bush historian said in his or her written response to the poll, “I suspect that this poll will tell us nothing about President Bush’s performance vis-à-vis his peer group, but may confirm what we already know about the current crop of history professors.†The liberal-left proclivities of much of the academic world are well documented, and some observers will dismiss the findings as the mere rantings of a disaffected professoriate. “If historians were the only voters,†another pro-Bush historian noted, “Mr. Gore would have carried 50 states.†It is plain that many liberal academics have the same visceral reaction against the second President Bush that many conservatives did against his immediate predecessor."
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    Andrea Mitchell
    She's part of that gang, Katie Couric, Connie Chung, Barbara Walters, Leslie Stahl, Helen (Rat Face) Thomas, ect, ect.
    They would like to see Sean Penn and Whoopi Goldberg in the White House.

    Watch Cute Perky Katie, she pulls her dress up around her neck now, she is trying to imitate the "Fox Girls". When she has to mention "Bush" she puts on her little sad face.
    I can't stand looking at her GUMS at seven o'clock in the morning.

    I hope they all keep it up though, they are driving the "Neo Lib Demo's" into oblivion.
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    Andrea Mitchell had a near melt-down interviewing a federal judge who supported the President's right, no duty, to wiretap in wartime. He kept answering all her leading questions wrong, from her viewpoint.
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    The president has a right to waive the fourth amendment during war, even if the Congress never declared war, as I understand it.

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