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  1. Holy Diver

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    You are all frickin CRAZY!....So funny that you believe that the wilsons and the CIA were conspiring against bush and cheney....yet call us 9-11 conspirators 'foil wearing, sky falling, MOONBATS'.....check your heads.

    I have some fresh reynolds wrap for y'all....please post your hat size, and shipping address because you are all in need of some fresh foil.

    HA!
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    Holy, go out to the woods and nail some squirrels, or even down to the local dump and shoot a few rats. Iow, *relax*.

    :D

    Putting this Libby thing into perspective is not simply about considering various motivations the Wilsons (including Plame) and their enablers may have had -- though motivation is a very valid point to consider. There is a whole waterfront of issue here regarding *why* Libby was hounded. And the answer seems obvious: he worked for Cheney, whom most anti-Bush elements say is the "real power" behind the throne.

    This is an attempt to win the White House in '08 by smearing the Bush presidency. Plain and simple.


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    priceless...

    so 7 and 1/4 ?
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    I gotta admit, it is hilarious that you believe in conspiracy theiries that involve thousands of people and think that bureaucrats in the CIA with extensive partisan ties can't possbile have an agenda.

    :) :rolleyes: :p
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    Is it any worse than the Clinton witch hunt?

    Clinton, and Libby, could both have avoided trouble by following the law. I don't care if someone's motivation is political or not, I want government officials to be accountable and to be punsihed when they break the law.
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    takes one to know one....thats all I'm saying....

    The line forms to the right this time...You people are awesome!
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    :singing:


    So you live down by a river in Egypt, eh? Da Nile. O-o-o-kay.

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    There is no doubt. These people have completely lost touch with a little thing called reality.
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    Puj, this is a math problem, not a legal one.


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    You are equating a paranoid thoery with facts introduced into evidence in a trial and the findings of the Senate Intel committee....

    LOL!
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    And you apparently don't think that justice was served in this trial.

    Would a pardon make you feel better about it?
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    I guess you can call people paranoid and all that when it serves YOUR agenda. But is funny how you can't see your own paranoia, and fact shifting.


    Like I said....its hard to admit that what is coming out of your own mouth (keyboard) can bee seen by a lot of people as paraniod. It takes a big person to admit that what they believe might be crazy

    <<<< SO TO ALL YOU SCOOTER CONSPIRACY THEORISTS >>>>>>>>

    My door is always open....

    How do my shoes feel?
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    I DIDN"T say that. I do find the actions of one of the juror's odd to say the least. I didn't sit in on the trial, the verdict is what it is.
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    From the Wahington POst, hopefully even you will concede not a hotbed of Right Wing thought:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html
    Couldn't be more clear forget partisanship right from the Horse's (ass) Mouth.

    Not to mention it was later confirmed by the translated Iraqi intel docs.
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    From another more recent Wa PO editorial:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html

    Would you like to continue to contend it is just right wing blogs who question Wilson's credibility?
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    Speaking of agenda's, I watched Hardball tonight, and they started the show with that juror, Ann Pedington (sp?). Anyhow, Howard Fineman, who is pretty cool, asked Ann about the case and whether or not it was meant for someone higher and yada, yada... to which she replied no, and then she said something about the the people involved having an agenda, and that "everyone in the news has an agenda, which is why you should really rely on multiple sources for your information". Ouch, and god bless her. Fineman looked annoyed by her response, and before they left his split screen, he said soemthing under his breath "yeah everyone but you". HA! Man I love it when people give it to the MSM. :D
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    Bingo!

    Pujo, you're right on the money. :rocker:
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    Wonder if the press wil insist on more inqueries into leaks concerning national security?

    Just a wild guess but, my guess is no.
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    Damn right the verdict is what it is...

    Anyhow,

    A few FACTS about the Senate Intel report Bush Leaguers here are clinging to like a piece of driftwood on the rapids:

    1) Despite mounds of pressure to fulfill their promise, the report was never finished. It remains, to this day, buried on the priority list. (Editorial comment: It is beyond obvious that the 2nd portion was going to completely expose the administration's prior knowledge to flawed intel).

    2) It was a Republican majority. Dems served as the minority party.

    3) Dems had PROFOUND objections to many the sugarcoated findings.

    4) Rockefeller insists Dick Cheney meddled DAILY and forced Phase II -- the most damaging half, which was never finished -- to stall until after the Nov. 04 elections.

    5) The Senators who handled the Wilson-Niger part of the report were Bond, Hatch and Roberts (all Rebulicans).

    6) The October 2002 NIE stated that Iraq appeared to be reconsitituting its nuclear weapons program. The Committee's report concluded that this view was not supported by the underlying intelligence, and the report agreed with the opinion of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, expressed as an "alternative view" in the NIE, that the available intelligence did not make "a compelling case for reconstitution" of the Iraqi nuclear program. The committee reached several conclusions critical of poor communications between the CIA and other parts of the intelligence community concerning this issue. IN OTHER WORDS: there was no program, there was no attempt to buy uranium from Niger.

    I find it hysterical, however, that certain righties on every blog and righty newspaper are humping this unfinished, half-assed report desperately, because they think they've found something contradicting Wilson's findings. Yet, ironically, the overall report that was actually finished was, to that point, a crushing contradiction of Bush/Cheney's pre-war claims. They don't seem to acknowledge that. Just the vague Wilson assertion.

    Classic neocon sympathy.
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    patsfan, why don't you just sum up your overall feeling about Iraq, the War on Terror and the intel that went into getting American and UN "approval?" Would you do that in a new thread?

    Because you're just all over the board, and I'm not quite sure what your overall views are in this whole thing.

    My guess would be that you love war, especially against Muslims, and that the specifics behind the case for permission for war was all accurate.
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    Why did you move this post ? to place it after the responses I posted referencing the Wa Po? Are you prepared to cal lthe Wa Po liars? Or Right Wing fanatics?

    A little honesty ? maybe once?
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    i moved it because it needed an edit... and i'll post and reposition posts however and whenever i feel like it... got it?

    as for the Washington Post, when it comes to the Iraq occupation, and their editorial board, they are an embarrassment to journalism... have been for a long time...
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    I thought you repositioned to make it confusing to readers of the thread, next time i'll quote your tedious post so people will know what is being refuted.
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    my facts about the half-assed, unfinished Senate Intel report that you keep masturbating over is tedious to you? yeah, that about sums it up...

    you didn't refute anything in that post... all you did was talk about the WP story... get over yourself...
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    "masturbating" here, "masturbating" there -- you got a thing about whacking off it appears.


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    lol... whenever my girlfriend asks me to, yes... or when Jaime Pressley pops into my mind... but never over political frustrations...

    i wasn't raised to believe it was a bad thing... something tells me you, and people who think like you, were... which gets to the very root of a lot of the dysfunction in crazy Christian Right ideology... but that's another thread altogether...

    perhaps you can wax on about "hard poles" and "soft openings" again and teach us all about your odd views on sexuality, like you did last time?
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    So you keep using the term, "masturbation", and connecting it to "political frustrations", though. Everybody else but not you. Yeah. Sure.


    Interesting.


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    Your "girlfriend"? Ah, I see... :p

    [​IMG]
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    anyhow, here's why it was a crime... because it impeded a broader case against Cheney:

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/030807Z.shtml
    At the time of Waxman's comments, it was unknown how involved Cheney was in the matter. But two weeks ago, during closing arguments, Cheney was implicated in the leak. It was the first time Fitzgerald acknowledged that Cheney was intimately involved in the scandal and may have told Libby to leak Plame's status to the media. Fitzgerald told jurors that his investigation into the true nature of the vice president's involvement was impeded because Libby obstructed justice.

    Libby's attorney, Theodore Wells, told jurors during closing arguments that Fitzgerald and his deputy have been attempting to build a case of conspiracy against the vice president and Libby, and that the prosecution believes Libby may have lied to federal investigators and a grand jury to protect Cheney.
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    Libby testified before the GJ that Cheney told him who pPlame was, he was busted for later saying he forgot an d that Tommy from NBC told him Plame's name, the jury believed tommy not Libby. get it straight.

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