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Please, please, PLEASE stop using the 2000 Ravens as an example of a team that won the SB with a subpar QB. That team's defense was historically great, arguably the best since the '85 Bears. The Patriots' D is not even in the same stratosphere, there is no argument here.

The only team in recent memory that I can think of that went deep in the playoffs were the '06 Bears with Grossman at the helm, and they were also an overwhelmingly dominant defense.

Like it or not, the Patriots have looked decidedly average in beating a very bad Chiefs team and a Jets team that is looking to be in quite a bit of disarray, and looked below-average against a very bad team in the Dolphins.

This team is not extremely different from the team that just went 18-1, particularly the offense. Someone once pointed out (I'm not sure if it were on this board or elsewhere) that Brady going down and giving way to Cassel is about as pure of a controlled experiment as possible in examining the impact of a QB on an NFL team. Through 3 weeks, it looks pretty clear that Brady makes or breaks this team, and we are middle of the pack without him.


You are truly daft. Last year there were FOUR accomplished WRs. This year there have been only two. Stallworth is gone, and Jabbar has had a bad wheel. Even Brady with out his WRs would have had problems.

Irrespective of the QB play, the Defense has looked overpowered, old and slow at SILB and SS. The WILB looks raw in some plays.
 
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