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  1. pats1

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    Belichick is 19-5 (could be 20-5 if the Pats win tomorrow) against teams the Pats face for the second time in a season (includes playoffs). He's 18-2 if you disregard the scrap-to-rebuild year of 2000.

    From Reiss' blog:

    Here is the breakdown:

    2000 -- (losses to the Dolphins, Jets and Colts; win over the Bills) -- 1-3
    2001-- (wins over the Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Rams and Colts) -- 5-0
    2002 -- (loss to the Jets; wins over the Dolphins and Bills) -- 2-1
    2003 -- (wins over the Titans, Colts, Bills, Jets and Dolphins) --5-0
    2004 -- (loss to the Dolphins; wins over Jets, Bills, Colts and Steelers) -- 4-1
    2005 -- (win over the Bills and Jets) -- 2-0


    The Patriots haven't played the Jaguars since December 14th, 2003.

    Jaguars starters December 14th, 2003 vs. Jaguars starters in their last game:

    QB - Leftwich - Garrard
    RB - Taylor - Taylor
    FB - Edwards - Jones
    WR - Smith - Smith
    WR - Edwards - Wilford
    WR - Jones - Johnson
    TE - Brady - Brady
    LT - Pearson - Barnes
    LG - Manuwai - Manuwai
    C - Meester - Norman
    RG - Naeole - Naeole
    RT - Williams - Williams

    LE - Brackens - Hayward
    LDT - Stroud - Stroud
    RDT - Henderson - Henderson
    RE - Douglas - Spicer
    LOLB - Ayodele - Ayodele
    MLB - Peterson - Peterson
    ROLB - Smith - Clark
    LCB - Mathis - Mathis
    RCB - Bryant - Wright
    FS - Cooper - Grant
    SS - Darius - Sensabaugh

    K - Marler - Scobee
    P - Royals - Hanson
    LS - Zelenka - Zelenka

    And the Steelers starters the last time the Patriots played them, September 25th 2005 vs. Steelers starters in their last game:

    QB - Roethlisberger - Roethlisberger
    RB - Parker - Parker
    FB - Kreider - Kreider
    WR - Ward - Ward
    WR - Randle El - Randle El
    TE - Miller - Miller
    TE - Tuman - Tuman
    LT - Smith - Smith
    LG - Faneca - Faneca
    C - Hartings - Hartings
    RG - Simmons - Simmons
    RT - Starks - Starks

    LE - Smith - Smith
    NT - Hampton - Hampton
    RE - Von Oelhoffen - Von Oelhoffen
    LOLB - Haggans - Haggans
    LILB - Farrior - Farrior
    RILB - Foote - Foote
    ROLB - Porter - Porter
    LCB - Taylor - Taylor
    RCB - Townsend - Townsend
    FS - Hope - Hope
    SS - Polamalu - Polamalu

    K - Reed - Reed
    P - Gardocki - Gardocki
    LS - Warren - Warren


    Point made.
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    This is why I'd just as soon play the Steelers,Broncs, and Colts. The other advantage in these match-ups is Seymour. He wasn't healthy for any of these games and the difference he has made is obvious. Of the three, the Steelers worry me most, esp., if Bettis can keep it going like he has lately. Hines Ward presents problems, also. I think our D would relish another shot at the Broncs as would Brady. The Colts are weakened, but they can play without a running game. We should be able to pressure Manning with our front 7, but that game will be a shoot-out, nonetheless, IMO.
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    Those stats miss an even more impressive point. The Belechick led Patriots have never lost to a QB the second time they've seen him. It doesn't matter who won the first meeting, when they've seen a QB for the 2nd time....They've won every single game.
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    Let us also remember that, if the Pats pull this one off today, and get the #3 seed and either face KC or PIT, it will help more than the fact that we're playing either for the second time this season.

    With a possible 3 games in 13 days, the Pats won't have too much time to prep, which can take longer since the starters barely played today.

    BB has already said there isn't much to do on weeks where he's playing a team for the second time in a season. Obviously, this is the playoffs and prep is multiplied by 10, but it will be a lot easier than trying to prep for a Jax team the Pats haven't seen in 2 years.

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