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  1. PatsFanInVa

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    It strikes me that we're very invested hereabouts in the currently en vogue narrative about Democrats "listening to the people," now that Scott Brown has become the tipping point in the Republicans' super-minority of 41.

    I also see silly things about this being a vindication of the tea baggers, the staunch conservatives, yadda yadda yadda.

    But Scott Brown completes the pattern of moderate-sounding Republicans winning in NJ and VA. To be sure, VA's Bob McDonnell is no RINO, but what he did was very much what the RINO Scott Brown did, that is, talk as if he were reasonable, and appeal to independents here.

    Brown supports Roe V. Wade (albeit not expansions thereof) and seems to echo Obama on the subject:

    Roe v. Wade Supporter Scott Brown, Improbable Pro-Life Hero -- Politics Daily

    The unifying thread is that, unlike their teabagging bases, these "test cases" for the proposition that the Dems are off the rails to the left, also establish some sense of what is working for those scoring upset wins over the Dems.

    - You have to sound reasonable
    - You have to appeal to independents
    - It's best to stay away from the culture wars -- or even to have a non-conservative position or two up your sleeve.

    Lost amid the declarations of the pundits that these elections show that the Dems have to "listen to the people," is the fact that in winning these elections, the GOP has at least in style, and in some cases in substance, stepped back from the rightist edge in choosing its candidates. To win, you cannot be an unabashed conservative; but you can frame yourself as a reasonable, fair-minded fiscal conservative.

    We'll see what comes of it in '10. Should the GOP pursue its current tack, I think the trick will be to fool enough independents into thinking their offerings are truly moderate republicans -- the oppposite of the purge so recently attempted under the leadership of the Palins and Limbaughs that until last week led the party.

    As the GOP casts about for standard bearers, they've jettisoned the idea that a beauty-contest runner-up who says the red-meat rightist phrases should be president. The new narrative is that a state senator who becomes a real senator will have jussst enough "oomph" by '12 to say "why not?" and proclaim himself "the naked white Obama."

    That is, of course, if he doesn't screw up and get proclaimed the male Palin instead.

    For the moment, it looks as though the GOP's dominant electoral practice will be to run as moderates, even while their dominant legislative practice will be to stonewall along pure partisan lines.

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    The problem is they are controlled by their most conservative elements who will give candidates limited wiggle room. Already, Glen Beck has said some nasty things about Scott Brown, and Brown's stand on abortion is not going to be tolerated for long.
     
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    The lesson is much more simple than people are trying to make it out to be. The simple fact of the matter is that when times are tough, the party in the White House is going to suffer. Even when times are good, the party in the White House is lucky to break even.
     
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    That much was already going to happen... and having your ear to the ground is necessary to mitigate the expected damage, if you're a Dem, and take greatest advantage of same, if you're a Pubbie.

    Unless the GOP gets Democratic Disease and utterly screws the pooch, it'll pick up seats in '10. It's a matter of how many each strategy will deliver, and that's a matter of the mood of the country.

    This last is the complicated part :)
     
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    15 months ago, people were acting like the Republicans would never win another election ever again. 15 months later, the Republicans own the seat occupied by the Kennedy family for over 50 years from one of the most liberal states in the union. So don't give us "that much was already going to happen." Nobody in their wildest dreams would imagine things would be THIS bad THIS fast for the left.
     
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    15 months ago everybody knew one thing that in the midterms there is often a swing from the status quo to something new and refreshing, when it is operationalized people find it is the same old, same old.. party politics and K st. rule congress...

    Someday the lemmings will wake up and realize that they have very little control over who they elect...
     

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