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    Lee Atwater (of Willie Horton ad fame) is the forerunner to Rove in the Republican Party. Atwater is credited with the most effective implementation of the Republicans' southern strategy and getting Reagan elected. Since some here seem to be in denial about racism in the Republican Party, it is noteworthy that Atwater's most famous remarks are on tape, so there can be no dispute as to what he said.

    Now, even Atwater understood that northern Republicans were different than southern ones, but the point is that racism was clearly part of the Republican strategy, and now they are stuck with an influential racist contingent that defies the changing demographics of the nation. In my view, the nation owe the likes of racists like Atwater, Reagan, and Rove a big hug -- they rid the Democratic party of most of its scum.

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    "You start out in 1954 by saying, 'N-, n-, n-.' By 1968 you can’t say 'n-'—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'N-, n-.'”
     
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    #75 Jersey

    Ah yes, poor Willie Horton. A man who stabbed a 17 year-old kid to death and stuffed him in a trash can. He was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole so the fact that he was let out for the weekend and then raped and killed people can't be mentioned. People are opposed to that kind of thing because they are too racist to appreciate it. :rolleyes:
     
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    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    He can't help it, his great great grandfather was

    My Opinon
    Willie Horton was a murdering souless savage dog and there are 'white ones out there also' are these scumsucking bastards supposed to get special treatment because they are black, bullshlt.

    There is a movement out there right now by many states to seperate themselves from this new screwy socialist left wing America, if it ever comes to be and I'm still alive I'm heading for one of those states like I was shot out of
    a f---ing cannon.

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    LOL. Just gloss over the racism involved in all this, and complain about Republican gov Francis Sargent's furlough law, under which Horton got released during Dukakis term. Atwater, like many Republicans, was a racist, and played the race card with the Horton ad. The ad was designed to rally bigots, and thus emphasized Horton's race. It was part of the southern strategy, which of course is what you're trying hard not to talk about, lest you have to admit that racism is real in the Republican Party.
     
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    Sort of like this? Urban voter, new code word for poor and most likely black

    Paul Ryan blames Republican ticket's loss on 'urban' voters | Mail Online
     
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    Also like to add that on his death bed atwater said he was remorseful for doing what he did. I doubt will see any of the new atwaters saying the same thing.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    The preening self-righteousness of the left is getting a bit tiresome.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    I'll admit that racism is real in the human race. I'll include Democrats in that group (this time). :p

    Oh, and I'm not a Republican.
     
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    Poor little Willie Horton he didn't have a Pony when he was a child, whaaaaaaaaa.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Code word? Inner city blacks chose the word "Urban" to identify a National organization dedicated to their rights and self reliance.



    Great another word white conservatives are forbidden to use. I am no supporter of Ryan but his use of the word "urban" was not racist. I'm getting so sick of this crap that I'm getting pissed off at some of you guys. Im serious.


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    Sargent never intended felons with life-without-parole to be furloughed. Fact is the state legislature passed a law removing that loophole and Dukakis vetoed that bill.

    Let me say that again: Dukakis VETOED a bill which would have denied furloughs to scum sucking inhuman animals like Willie Horton.

    But why let facts get in the way of this discussion?
     
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    Said by a man (you) that lives in the burbes. You need to look in the mirror pal, you have a high level of self righteousness yourself. Go down to the student prince, or the longmeadow country club and drown your sorrows. The man said what he said and in the end he regretted it. Deal with it.
     
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    The point of this thread is about the Republican racist strategy. Now, if Atwater hadn't said what he said, you might have a point. But, Atwater was fully aware of the value of singling out blacks as part of his southern strategy. The problem is with the Republican Party's lack of credibility when it comes to race issues. Their political philosophy seems to work too often to the detriment of minorities by focusing on crimes and problems of minorities, as if whites simply don't do bad things. It's a credibility issue.
     
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    Amen, brother. Your statements in this thread are 100% right on.
     
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    My only point is that blaming Sargent for Willie Horton - like you tried to do - shows a tremendous lack of knowledge of the actual facts. That's got nothing to do with Atwater or anything he may have said.
     
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    are you forgetting the people killed in this? is that what you're glossing over?

    typical of libbies to try to 'understand' murder instead of condemning it
     
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    If you want to start a thread condemning Willie Horton, I strongly doubt anyone will disagree, but in my opinion a real problem with conservatives is there willingness to deflect discussion of the problem of racism in their party. The fact is that Lee Atwater was the father of racist political posturing in the Republican Party (the southern strategy), so even an ad by Atwater about Willie Horton does not come off as an ad about crime, but an ad designed to use race to win the white vote. As I said, it's a credibility issue.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    There's no racism in the democratic party and Francis Sargent (R) not the MA legislature (DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDs) and certainly not Dukakis (D) let Willie Horton go. The republicans are always letting these guys go eh? I couldn't even type it without laughing.

    Like I said in an earlier thread, whenever I hear the "N" word around here it comes from the mouth of a whiter than white democrat.

    Just like Cruz Bustamonte (D), Lt Gov of CA under Gray Davis (D), was caught saying it a few years ago.

    Which party was it that fought the civil rights act tooth and nail in the 60s? Hint: It wasn't the republican party.

    It's amazing how uniformed the "enlightened ones" are on this subject.

    We understand though. You wouldn't want your daughter to marry "one" but their vote is very important, so on with the charade.
     

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