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  1. patsfan55

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    hes from lynn, ma
    hes 6'2" 240lbs

    looks like he could play ilb in the 3-4
    he was alll over the field vs michigan on sat, and HES FROM LYNN, MA
     
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    SOUNDS LIKE A PATRIOT TYPE TO ME


     
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    He really showed up well against Michigan. He has a lot of heart. As for a quick 1 game evaluation:

    The instincts looked decent and he definately can tackle. He was on a few specialteams, that has to be a plus.

    The two problems that stood out in my mind.

    First he looked terrible in coverage. Second I can't tell from one game, but I didn't see great speed from him.
     
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    Always like your critiques of individual players. Very subjective. A nice cold eye.

    Coverage can be taught. Also, Tedy B. is no speed demon. But if he has some instinct and undeniable intangibles then keep him on the radar........we need serious LB help in the very near future.
     
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    Thanks Clonamery for the complement on the evaluation.

    I agree, coverage can be taught. And don't get me wrong, I'm not ruling this guy out by any stretch of the imagination. Overall I like him, if nothing else he proved he can play special teams on the next level.

    One thing I want to add is that coaches can't teach heart and desire and passion and a guy like this has that, and that is a plus in my book.
     
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    All I want to know is if he talks with as big an accent as Jermaine Wiggins. If so sign him up.

    I want Jermaine Wiggins to get every role in Hollywood that calls for a Boston accent. I'm tired of the phonies. Very insulting.
     
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    Let's see what goes on with Scorcese's 'The Departed.'
     
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    Talking LBs...Boise State kid, Hall #25, was all over the field making plays in the Oregon State game. The way he was moving he's probably under 240, but he looked good on Special Teams, picked off a pass sliding underneath the receiver, busted up a screen, etc. He's a four year starter if I understood the announcers correctly. If I wasn't so lazy I'd check out their roster for his details...
     
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    I'm lazy too but here are some particulars:
    COLLEGE - (2006) Named second-team preseason All-American by NationalChamps.net...Named to the preseason watch lists for the Butkus Award, Rotary Lombardi Award, the Bronko Nagurski Trophy and the Lott Trophy...Named the WAC Preseason Defensive Player of the Year by The Sporting News and Blue Ribbon...Named to The Sporting News and Blue Ribbon preseason All-WAC teams...Named the 10th-best inside linebacker in the country heading into the season by The Sporting News...Heads into season 15th in all-time tackles at Boise State and can move into fourth with just 72 tackles...
    (2005) Named first-team All-WAC for the second consecutive season after leading the Broncos with 106 tackles, 5.0 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, two interceptions and three pass breakups...Had double-digit tackles five times for the Broncos, including a career-high 15 against Boston College in the MPC Computers Bowl....Finished with 12 tackles at Oregon State...Had 11 tackles and 1.5 sacks at Utah State...Made 10 tackles at both Fresno State and Louisiana Tech...Recorded eight tackles at Georgia and seven tackles against Hawai’i, San Jose State, New Mexico State and Idaho...Picked off passes against Nevada and Hawai’i...Named preseason honorable mention All-America and first-team All-WAC by Street & Smith’s and first-team All-WAC by Athlon Sports...Named to the 2005 Bronko Nagurski Trophy Watch List, the 2005 Rotary Lombardi Award Watch List and the 2005 Chuck Bednarik Award Watch List...Named the nation’s 12th-best inside linebacker by The Sporting News...
    (2004) Named first-team All-WAC after finishing second on the team with 85 tackles, first with 8.5 tackles for loss, two sacks and three interceptions...Named to the Collegefootballnews.com All-WAC team...Finished 12th in the WAC in tackles with 7.1 per game...Named the WAC Defensive Player of the Week twice...The first award came after he picked off three passes (one for a touchdown) against Oregon State, while making four tackles...The three interceptions were the second most in a single game during the season...Second player of the week award came after he had 11 tackles, two sacks, and 2.5 tackles for loss against BYU...Finished with double digit tackles three times to run his career total to five...Had a season-high 15 tackles at San Jose State, including a tackle for loss...In addition to the 11 tackles against BYU, also had 12 tackles the next week against SMU with 1.5 tackles for loss...Tallied nine tackles against Louisville in the AutoZone Liberty Bowl, and had eight tackles and a sack at UTEP, while recording seven tackles against Hawai’i and six against Fresno State with 0.5 tackles for loss...
    (2003) Named honorable mention All-WAC as a freshman after finishing third on the Bronco team with 92 tackles, including 7.5 tackles for a loss and 2.5 sacks...Recorded double-digit tackle games twice...Set a career-high with 10 tackles at Oregon State, with 2.5 tackles for loss, and then broke it with 11 tackles against Fresno State...Had nine tackles against UTEP, eight against Wyoming and seven against Idaho, Nevada, Hawai’i and TCU in the Broncos’ 34-31 win at the PlainsCapital Fort Worth Bowl...(2002) Redshirted during the 2002 season, his first with the Bronco program.

    He's too small at 6'1 228lbs for LB in the NFL....weight gain needed. But I've watched him the last two years on that dang blue field.
     
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    The size is surely a problem, I imagine the Tampa 2 teams will rate him higher then the Pats, who would probably see him as more of a Special Teams role player. Thanks for being less lazy than I! :D
     
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    im assuming hes staying in school as he was hurt most of this yr
     
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    Goff is a great player..could've been a first rounder with good workouts. but hes staying
     
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    I really liked Goff. I saw him in the Georgia game and he looked very good. Nees work on coverage, but his game is coming along well.
     
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    What are chances a kid this size could be converted to SS?
     
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    I'm thinking very slim. He is clearly more comfortable near the line of scrimage and moving forward.
     
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    I was about to say at 235 lbs, Goff would need to gain some weight to become a consideration. After watching the clip though, what strikes me about Goff is that his body build is very wide and he looks HUGE. He definitely looks like he has the kind of body type that could put more weight on easily.

    Now if Goff's skills, smarts, and speed go along with the physical package, I think he could make someone a very nice 3rd round pick, (maybe with the Pats early 3rd rounder we got from the Raiders?)

    http://scoreboards.aol.com/football/ncaaf/player/37868/player.aspx

    Don't forget guys that Bruschi was only a 3rd round pick, but he's turned out pretty well for us.
    I think I'm beginning to like this Goff kid in the 3rd.
    http://nwe.scout.com/a.z?s=121&p=8&c=1&nid=1839124
     
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